I have heard some crazy stories that Kim Il Jong is actually dead from diabetes and that he has doubles posing as him.

Sorry, Kim Jong-Il, I meant no disrespect.

Why is it that everyone seems to be able to get rid of their crappy leader but us? For a cooking show they're willing to say he violated the Constitution but we're not sure spying on citizens, lying us into war and torturing people violates ours.

Rac, if he's dead, I don't think the doubles are doing it 'for him' - let's hope that if he's in the afterlife, he's eased his grip on power a little.

Hm, Bush is pulling out troops just in time to get out of office. Makes ya wonder don't it? I hope whoever gets into office is prepared to deal with Iraq, because they're still a threat and they're not going to give up just because we pull out.

I have to say that I think this is a republican strategy to alleviate the war discontent from the election. If Americans feel as though the war is winding down, they've effectively taken that debate off the table. I also believe the gas prices lowering is also being manipulated to coincide with the election.

I know. I know. It's just a theory.

But isn't that what GB has always said? Our troops will come home as conditions permit, and not on a specific timeline?

Stephley - You need to talk to the democratic party about that. IMO, they didn't have the necessary proof. If they did, they could've used it to get GB out in 06, or sooner, and would've destroyed or crippled the RNC in the process. The fact that they didn't leads me to believe that either they don't have enough proof, or the proof implicates them as well, and they don't want to take themselves out in the process.

UnDave, I just don't think they have the votes for impeachment. The democrats have a razor thin majority in both chambers, and the republicans are many things, but they are not party turncoats. I can't imagine even one republican voting for impeachment. That's more of a democratic thing, sad to say.

Impeachment is a democratic thing?? Who was it that wanted to impeach Clinton?

Gluu, I meant there were democrats who voted for impeaching Clinton. I don't think you'll find republicans voting to impeach their president. That's all.

So being a turncoat is a democratic thing? That I would agree with.

Ouch. Well, I don't think I'd go that far. My point was that democrats tend to see outside the party lines more, whereas republicans tend to stay within the ideology of their rank and file.

So we can agree that republicans are more true to their party.

Joe Lieberman's a perfect example of democratic turncoat.

No, that's exactly the opposite of what I'm saying. I'm saying that democrats are being true to their party by seeing beyond their party and republicans are true to their party by sticking strictly within their party's ideological dialectic.

Are you messing with me?

You can't have it both ways. How can you stay true to your party by going outside it? They can argue that they're staying true to their ideals maybe, but not always true to the party. The reality is that there's only two political parties. Sometimes you have to give a little for the greater good, and stick with the party that you think will be the best for your country in the long run.

Is that kitten smoking? I do not condone that unless he has glaucoma.

Gluu. It's not both ways. If your party is one that condones the acceptance of ideas and actions for the betterment of the nation over its own ideals, then voting your conscience is, in fact, sticking to the values and ideals of your party. That's not both ways, in my opinion.

Yeah, that is one bad cat. Drinks too. It once killed a man in Reno just to watch him die.

It shouldn't be about Parties anyway. It SHOULD be about, as Mccain's campaign states, "Country First" and to HELL with party lines.

I'm all for getting RID of Democrats vs. Republicans to be honest. I typically vote republican, but I HATE being asked which party I belong to because there are MANY things in the republican platform that I DO NOT agree with. But, likewise there are many things in the democratic party I don't agree with. I'm willing to bet that most Americans feel this way, and it's not fair that we have to be "pigeon holed" into one party or the other.

I HATED when they had that election a couple of years ago where you could ONLY vote within the party you declared. I didn't vote, because there were people and issues within BOTH parties that I both agreed AND disagreed with. It wasn't fair that I should have had to pick one and run with it. So I didn't. NO ONE should be able to tell me how to vote, and essentially, that's exactly what that did.

And raci, it IS both ways. But honestly, these days they SHOULDN'T be true to a "party", but to what is best for our country. Crossing party lines right now is CRITICAL for our country to again become unified. Bush's actions during his most recent term has done irreparable damage to the republican party, and it will certainly need a strong representative to help rebuild it. BUT, he's also going to need the backing of the Democrats if he wants it to work. For those reasons ANY candidate, be it D or R, should embrace the other and learn to work with them.

This is what McCain/Palin will bring. Barack has not crossed lines, in fact has gone out of his way NOT to cross them, whereas Palin has made a career of doing the best thing, approaching the best people regardless of party. McCain has made the same motions in the Senate. We need them.

I don't agree with McCain/Palin bringing bi-partisanship, but here here on the rest of your sentiments! I agree 100%.

and raci, that's why I love America. You can disagree and it's OK, no one will behead you. (Well, they might on here, but I won't! LMAO)

what a strategic move on the republicans side i hope the undecided don't fall for it, why pull out now to try and fool people to think that their son daughters husbands wives will come home soon, and then come election and bam your deployed back

I wish the press and public were paying attention to that agreement we're working on with Iraq. In the excitement of having some people come home, we're not questioning what the Administration is agreeing to, to be allowed to keep some there.

Sorry about wandering off. Life called and needed me to go play with the kids.

Rac - How many votes do you need to begin the impeachment process? Do you really think if there is a valid evidence that republicans would play politics just to save a "lame" duck? I could the entire party throwing him under the bus to save their careers, if they chose to play politics.