I like Hillary, I know that most people don't like her but I really like her.

"Seems" being the key word

It's nice to her relaxed and engaged with people who are outside her comfort zone. It's probably not every day she gets to speak to professional women worth millions of dollars. Good for her for reaching out!

Yes, she does. I wish this is what their campaign could be about, and not just as a little video here and there in between all the dirty business. She seems like a great leader and rolemodel here. I just don't get the swift changes, it's like watching a bipolar campaign.

This does look like a different side of her that we are unable to see because of all the politics. She's just hanging out giving some great advice.

Exactly Nurse. There is nothing that she could do to sway me in her favor. I have read too much about her and her policies and what she herself has written. Just like her husband, she is full of charisma, and that blinds people.

Actually, I have met Hillary and she is as real as it gets. She is a professional that has been there and done that. I do not know what is to disagree with after you have read her policies and I read her books and she is really a woman of our time. Look at her daughter and what a great person she is - you do not raise great children if you are a fake person. Hillary is the real deal and I am supporting her all the way.

I think she is ok, but I don't think that the majority of America can forget the ending of her husband's Presidency. I just don't see her winning the general election, too many skeletons.

Here is the link to the full youtube video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8frN4Rou_s It is worth watching the whole thing.

Yes, I remember the end of Bill's Presidency - we had a balanced budget a great economy and peace in the world and Americans were respected around the world. Oh do you mean the republicans going after him and his personal life - yes that is what I would get all riled up around. He was one of our most brilliant Presidents. I guess he was a lot like John F Kennedy when it came to women in the white house. Bill left this country in great shape. Unlike the Bushies.

Thanks for the full video, kaysnowboarder. I really liked that she took the high road when the Obama question was asked. She's obviously highly intelligent and in tune with young women. I can't imagine how empowering it must have been for Chelsea to have a mother and a role model like her while she was growing up.

Why do people insist on bringing up her husband's presidency as a reason they wouldn't vote for her? She is not him, no more than he was her. I'm sure they have a lot of common ideas and thoughts, but they aren't the same person.

The Republican led investigation into the Clintons started long before the final years, the independent counsel started investigations within the first term. Not one thing they were accused of actually proved to be true. The only thing they did end up getting Bill on was that he lied under oath about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky during the investigation. It was a stupid thing to do, but I doubt you'll find many men who would freely admit to extramarital affairs.

I think it speaks volumes about her, not only that she raised Chelsea, but that she stayed in the marriage. To be able to do that in the face of infidelity, especially in that amount of spotlight, takes more courage and strength than any of the other candidates (aside from McCain's time as a POW) have shown.

If you don't want to vote for her, do it because you disagree with her politics or ideas... not because you don't like her husband.

Amen, kaysnowboarder.

I think it was very nice to point out that your vote was otherwise engaged because you still complimented Hillary and showed that you could be a fair journalist.

Nope. I still can't stand that woman.

I love Hillary! I hope to see her in the White House next year!

alfabettezoupe - People insist on bringing up he husband's presidency because he's been rather vocal and prominent on the campaign trail lately. Also, spouses tend to play a role in politics, though you couldn't tell from Laura Bush. (check out: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/26/opinion/26wills.html?ref=opinion). I like Hillary as a person well enough, but I think in order to return to the peace and prominence at the end of Bill Clinton's Presidency as kaysnowboarder mentions, we need someone more committed to uniting people. I also completely agree with Jillness - Hillary will have a much tougher time in the general election than Obama.

She seems very real and nice in this video, but I still think she's not the best choice. I just can't get over the fact that she voted in favor of the war in Irak. Now she says that she will end this war, but I just don't believe her. My vote goes to Obama.

silly3, Oprah is campaigning for Obama. Is she going to be making his policy decisions and secretly running the White House?

And honestly, so what if he's advising her. He was an amazing president who had his record blemished with personal scandal not by getting us into a never ending war, ruining the economy, making us a target of global ridicule or surrendering a major US city to rising flood waters.

If in the face of that, people are really going to let whether her husband got blown in the Oval Office cause them to vote for the Republicans... well then they deserve whatever happens.

She seems "real" in this video. But that doesn't mean anything does it? You can sit down and have a frank conversation with someone and then turn around have a fake conversation with someone else. It's not one or the other.

It's sort of odd to say that when Bill was in office, the world was in this perfect stasis (world peace, booming economy, Americans respected around the world). The WTC was bombed during his presidency, wasn't it? And the genocide in countries around the world? Just because we weren't at war doesn't mean the rest of the world wasn't.

And finally, no president should ever get credit for the economy. I think Bill Gates and the tech boom had more to do with the booming economy than Bill Clinton.

I'm not saying Bill was a bad president, but to pretend that the world was a perfect place until Bush came along just seems... false.

I say inspiration over calculation.

Peace around the world? Um...Didn't he bomb Balkans where thousands of Serbian Civilians died? And Somalia? Sudan he bombed an aspirin factory. He also bombed Afghanistan and Iraq. I believe when he bombed Iraq it was a day or two conveniently before his impeachment. Then of course there was the USS Cole, which was bombed killing about 20 sailors. Certainly sounds peaceful. And as the other poster said, it amazes me he gets so much credit for the Economy when he was in office. Because I am sure the dot com boom had nothing to do with it.

It's really frustrating to me when people say they "can't stand" Hilary. Why? Do you know her personally? Did she gossip about you behind your back? Did she borrow your sweater and never return it? WHY? Why can't you stand her?

"Why do people insist on bringing up her husband's presidency as a reason they wouldn't vote for her?"

Because she is including his presidency as part of her "35 years of experience". Also, she hasn't said where she would differ from her husband.

You can get mad at the people who bring up her husband's presidency all you want, but the FACT is that many, many, many people were deeply disappointed in President Clinton when he left office. I agree that the Lewinski debacle was absurd because what Presidents do in their bedroom should not be a matter for our government. But it effected a lot of people. Right or wrong, it disappointed a lot of voters. So did Whitewater, and the fact that Clinton pardoned McDougal.

I don't think we should just ignore this, and wait until the general election to realize we nominated a candidate that 50% of the country says they would NEVER vote for. In order for the democrats to win the general election, they need someone who can pull voters from the Republicans...not give them away.

I totally agree, Jillness. If it's Clinton vs. McCain I believe that McCain will win because he's practically a Democrat anyway - so he'll get the Dems that can't stand her and he'll get the Republicans that REALLY can't stand her. I'm still undecided until I know where Obama will be at the end of all of this but I will never vote for Hillary Clinton. Ever.

It is nice to see this side of her. I wish Hillary would more often let her guard down; it's easier to see her as a female-empowerment role model when she's more natural.

I heart Hillary Clinton. And the idea of a female President makes me all giddy inside.

The idea of a GREAT president makes me giddy, irregardless of gender.

There is a article about Obama raising 32 Million dollars in January on CNN. Some comments that other left on there reflect my thought that Obama can unite a MAJORITY where the Clinton legacy can't :

"I have nevr given to a political campaign, but agreed not to spend any money on entertainment and dinners to donate to Obama. If the Clinton(s) are the nominee, I will have to go with McCain."

"Never have contributed $ before but this is the year. The risks of Clinton in the White House are just too much"

"I'm a registered Republican. And I'm sending money to Obama's campaign AND plan on voting for him."

"I am ready to donate because I do not want to take the risk again by putting Clinton's back in office."

"I for one have not met a person in Dallas where I live that is NOT supporting Obama. I think this means a lot knowing that Texas is generall a "red state"."

You know Jillness I used to think that Clinton had a better chance of beating a Republican Candidate, but I am starting to think otherwise. Heck even me, a pretty die hard conservative has a soft spot for Obama.

"It's really frustrating to me when people say they "can't stand" Hilary. Why? Do you know her personally? Did she gossip about you behind your back? Did she borrow your sweater and never return it? WHY? Why can't you stand her?"

Do you really need to know someone on a personal basis to know you can't stand them? I would say that seeing someone in a public arena over and over is enough for people to base an opinion on. Not being able to stand someone is kind of a gut level reaction that doesn't really require them personally doing something to you (like stealing your favorite sweater)!

I know plenty of people who can't stand Bill O'Reilly (myself included), and I've never met him.

Many people don't like her. I'm sure there are plenty of people on this site (and in the general public) who would be more than willing to expound on the reasons.

And I finally made it to gold after all this time! Yay for me!!!

Jillness, you can add me to your quote list... Now that Giuliani is out, I will vote for any candidate, Republican or Dem, other than Hilary Clinton. I have voted Dem in all prior elections.

Hillary supporters: are you not at all worried about the fact that she's been(and her husband, they are running as a 2 for the price of 1, so it's impossible to not include him) lying in this campaign? Really? I would prefer a sweater stealing president to someone who sees the truth as a relative according to gain. Also, you must have no opinion of Bush then, unless you've met him personally.

I think that in comfortable environments Hillary can come off as approachable and thoughtful, maybe even likeable. But when she gets in the hot seat, she takes on this arrogant, bossy, and repulsive tone. When you go to her website and look up her stance on the issues, even in the phrasing and tone of the writing there is a kind of cockiness. I think it is very similar to GWB's tone.

I think that for the future of this country, we need to elect someone that is going to be diplomatic and that can start to undo the damage that GWB did with his arrogant cowboy attitude. People see us as the bully of the world, and someone that knows how to be humble might help to change those views.

How a candidate deals with those that disagree with him/her tells a lot to me about how they are going to deal with the allies and enemies of our nation. If you can disagree with someone and at the same time show respect, you are more likely to get them to agree with you.

"How a candidate deals with those that disagree with him/her tells a lot to me about how they are going to deal with the allies and enemies of our nation."

I AGREE 100%!!!

I have thought a long time about Iran, and I could really see Obama as someone who could meet with our "problem leaders" and convince them to work with the US and UN. I think a respectable and intellegent leader could really help the US.

Geez, it is amazing how many on this site are really high on Obama Kool-aid so much so that you can not think pragmatically - so enjoy the high until super-Tuesday. It is amazing how angry you are at Hillary - what has she done to deserve it? I hope you all have good relationships with your moms. You should try and read Gloria Steinem's peice in the New York Times. Maybe, many of you young women have not been in a position of power with only men sitting at the table with you. Well - it does take some toughness. Here is the link to the piece in the New York Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/08/opinion/08steinem.html

Kays, I would respect your opinion so much more if you didn't insult other board members. Saying things like "Obama Kool-Aid" and suggesting that we don't have good relationships with our mothers is so out of line.

Insulting other users isn't a good way to make a case for your candidate, either. When you start making a point by insulting our relationships with our mothers or suggesting that we have never been in a position of power, well it only discredits yourself.

The "Obama Kool-Aid" line that you use suggests that you are afraid of the idea that people actually have real and substantial reasons for chosing another candidate. Just because you don't agree, it doesn't mean the rest of the world is high. Very disrespectful.

You forgot to add that we are all sexist. Because that is a popular one for Hilary lovers to call people who dislike her and/or her policies. I mean it could not be at all that we are educated on the woman and don't agree with her and her policies. Nope, that is not it at all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/22/AR200801...

Here is a link that compares the economic stimulus packages of the candidates (all of them). I think that this matters more than what reproduction equipment the candidates are working with.

"How a candidate deals with those that disagree with him/her tells a lot to me about how they are going to deal with the allies and enemies of our nation."

I AGREE 100%!!!

So do I. In this case I think either Hillary or Obama will be a change. I hope it is Hillary but I am cool with Obama. It's time for change!

Jillness, I tried that tactic the other day, and she told me to grow some chops and broaden my shoulders or something assinine like that.

I don't think kaysnowboarder can get through a comment without adding polarizing and insulting sentiment to it.

Although now that I think about it, it would be a great campaign strategy to have really annoying and patronizing people go around stumping for your opposition.

It's got to be hard for her to be a woman in the boys club of the presidential political spectrum. Especially the first woman to come this far and be taken seriously! I couldn't imagine what that must be like for her. If she acts even the slightest bit emotional, her hormones are infringing upon her ability to lead the people of this country. By that standard, everyone's mother must have been unable to raise them because their hormones got in the way! I'm not saying I would vote for Hillary (I won't be voting for Obama, either. I'm much farther left than either of them.) But I will acknowledge how hard this must be for her.

I'd also like to point out that she is a great role model for young women. She's able to stand on her own and has made her own accomplishments. She was never the typical first lady with an uber-conservative wardrobe and a tiny cause to chit chat over (Nancy Reagan and her war on drugs, Laura Bush and her war on literacy, etc.) Hillary wants to tackle the big issues. She's not that mousy woman. And what a great message it is for women who want to be heard, and women with big voices and big ideas, that they can express that and still be women. And maybe grow up to be president someday, too.

Regardless of her politics, I respect her for that.

Hillary DID steal my sweater, and gossiped about me when I told other people about it!
On a more serious note, I could not, in any way, support anyone who approves of abortion, no matter what their reasoning may be. Anyone who condones, or approbates abortion surely doesn't know the entirety of the gruesome methods required to end an innocent child's life (at any time of the pregnancy). If that's so, they should go to the link below, and see how they feel about it afterwords. There's no reason why a mother who doesn't want her baby can't give him/her to adoption.

http://www.lifesite.net/abortiontypes/

Disgusting.

I love your completely one-sided propaganda site, JovianSkies! Personally, I think abortion is fantastic! Babies don't always go to loving homes. The foster care system creates new maladjusted delinquents every day. (Not to say that every foster child is a problem-child, just to say that the system is unbalanced and I've seen first hand what a horrible foster-care situation can create on multiple separate occasions.) Maybe that guy who stole your car and killed your daughter should've been aborted. And if I'm raped who are you to make me have the baby? What if I don't want to be pregnant. It isn't MY fault. This is MY body we're talking about. My weight. My health. My ripped vaginal tissue, thank you very much. So you're going to take away my rights because of what someone else did against my wishes and without my control or consent? But I could talk about this issue for hours.

Please understand that pro-choice politicians are not exactly supporting the idea of killing a "child" but of giving people, living, breathing, educated people who have established friends and family members on this earth, the ability to choose what they wish to do in their situation and NOT be told what they can and cannot do. (Fascists...) You wouldn't want someone to tell you that you had to do something with your body because of their governmental laws, would you? I don't tell you what God to worship, what to eat, where to work, what to wear. So don't tell me what my options are. That's all that I ask.

But I would like you to find loving adoptive homes for ever aborted fetus. That would prove rather interesting.

Cadet,
I'm appalled at your opinion.It's obvious to me that there is a lot of hurt within yourself that you need to work out, and I feel sorry for you.
It doesn't matter on which bias the site is, but that the listed methods of abortion are practiced, and apparently upheld by people who think much like you. True, not every foster child has a Disney story ending, and I know personally as well, how horrible the state can be concerning foster homes. I would be ecstatic if every child in a home to be given to a loving family, but even if it doesn't happen, at least they have a fighting chance to experience life. What you're talking about when you say "Maybe that guy who stole your car and killed your daughter should have been aborted" is such a ridiculous theory, I hardly know what to say. Should we all look at childrens'(or, as you like, a "fetus") faces and say, "I don't quite like the way he looks. Maybe he'll wind up as a bad person. Better abort him before he does something horrible"? You're right Cadet, you have made quite a solid point. Bravo.
Think what you like on abortion, but no matter if you say "Fetus" or "Child", it's still a person (because when sperm hits the egg, it's DNA, and DNA constitutes a person)that dies helplessly, and it's that person who will never even experience having rights, or ever have a choice of what happens to their body. They'll never have the priviledges you had. It's ironic that you would say "it's MY body", and "So you're going to take away my rights because of what someone else did against my wishes and without my control or consent?", as that's what happens to the child, born or unborn, because of the person who chooses to abort.
Anyway, I'm just going to leave it at that and not argue about it anymore. These debates rarely go anywhere, and people get very riled up about it.

I have to interject one thing. Foster care and adoption are two totally different things. If the mother gave the child up after birth then they would NOT GO INTO FOSTER CARE!!! Foster care is for babies of mothers who did not give up their rights and are held there until the family can take them back, or the mother and families rights are either taken away or voluntarily given up. They are put in foster care for a variety of different reasons, from being homeless to being abused.

Sorry but there is a HUGE difference between the two and I am so tired of that being an excuse for having abortions.

Though I feel I have arrived too late to this post for anyone to actually read this...........

"I'm not saying I would vote for Hillary (I won't be voting for Obama, either. I'm much farther left than either of them.) "

Who are you voting for, Stalin?

Listen,
I don't think I would ever have an abortion personally, but that isn't the point. The point I'm trying to make is, pro-choice isn't pro-abortion. It's pro- HAVING A CHOICE. The idea is that people will have morals and a conscience and make the right CHOICE. But when you take choices away from people you create panic, harsh circumstances, and back-alley abortions which not only result in dead "children" but dead mothers as well. You can hate abortion. That's fine. Don't have one. But don't you ever try to impose your beliefs on others and take away their options.

I'm more in tune with Kucinch, actually. He's who I would vote for if he weren't too liberal for the Democrats. Clinton and Obama are both moderate conservatives on the world political spectrum. But maybe America is just too conservative for me altogether.

You should find out where all the candidates stand.
See who's standing next to where you stand.
And vote for them.