Alright Sugars. I've had my fair share of bad relationships in the past, from cheaters to drug users and abusers but I have been seeing a new guy for the past month and a half. He's sweet and charming; everything my ex's weren't. Here's the problem: he gives me too much attention. Since we live an hour apart, we don't see each other every day. In the past six weeks we've only seen each other three times (for weekends at a time). Every time we say goodbye, he cries and cries for up to two hours after I leave. He calls all the time and is always online. His AIM avatar is a picture of us. He keeps saying that I'm the best thing that ever happened to him. He sends me extravagant gifts and last week he told me that he loved me. I told him (nicely) that I can't say the same thing because I hardly know him. This upset him but he still smothers me with kindness and keeps telling me (constantly) that he loves me. He seems to be rather lonely — he doesn't really have many friends, and I am only his second girlfriend. He's also in his early 20's and seems unusually emotional, hence his crying episodes.
Ladies, I would like to know your thoughts. Because of past experiences, I am quick to find fault in people, but I also know healthy behavior from unhealthy behavior. This seems a little unhealthy to me but I could be wrong.
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Hmm that's a tough one. I know for myself that I like a sensitive guy, but crying that much seems over the top and I know I would be turned off by that, not sexy. Underdog? That is just bizarre. It sounds like he's really idealizing you into who he thinks you are. He's obviously really inexperienced with girls. The overly emotional thing makes me think he's sufferring from depression, that's not a normal reaction, especially from a guy. Maybe you should talk to him about the crying and ask him if he's always been that emotional, if not maybe tell him you are concerned about him. He sounds lonely and depressed to me. I hope if he is, that he gets some professional help, because it sounds like he's already becoming too dependent on you.
1Wow. Too much too soon. I agree w/ the above poster that he may be idealizing you just a tad too much. No one can live up to his idealization of you, unfortunately, not even you, and oh I hate to think about how devastated he'd be if he found out you're not this 'perfection.'
Then again, a person who's very quick to fall in love usually also very quick to fall out of love (due to above reason, partly), so you have to be mindful of that should you continue to date him.
But if you're so turned off by this behavior, you may need to ask him if he's usually this emotional (crying during UnderDog...wow, it's different) and what he's like before your relationship, is he this mushy or what?
If he is, it's probably just the way he is, and he's probably lonely so he's putting everything on you, and you don't need something like that, imho. Guys find that off-putting when girls are all mushy and clingy too.
I hate to say this, but you may need to say that you want some space to rethink. He'd probably freak out (hopefully not), and explain why, it's because it feels too much too soon. Tell him that you're more pragmatical (due to your experience) and also slower to move in the relationship. And if you want, tell him your worries too, that he's just being very into you because he's all by himself.
Good luck to you.
2Run, run, run. This guy is not stable at all, and will likely turn into a stalker when you decide to end the relationship. I've dated guys like this and it never turns out good.
3Unhealthy, indeed.
4Run, run, run agreed!
5How creepy!?
Uum...run!!! He is centering his life around you way too soon. It is not a healthy relationship.
6Wow. End it very nicely before you end up chained to a pipe in his basement...
7He seems like a special guy but may be too special with his emotions at this stage of your relationship. You can tell him it's too much and ditch him if he doesn't realize how awkward his behavior makes your situation.
8agree with the creepy. I would end it. you want a guy who's sensitive, but not a crybaby. WTF would happen if u guys broke up months from now?? don't feel bad about dumping him. rip the band-aid off NOW!
9This sounds strangely familiar to another post from a month ago. Hopefully you aren't the same girl because I distinctly remember everyone saying to cut ties and move on. So, it sounds like you aren't happy with the fact that he doesn't seem to have his own life and in a relationship it's important to have a little space. It's kind of strange that he's so dramatic and emotional because most guys aren't like that. I would talk to him and see if he can cut it out. If he can't and you aren't happy with his behavior, leave. The relationship is still new and if you aren't happy now you probably won't be 10 months from now.
10Unhealthy!
He's probably really a sweet guy, but there's something potentially scary under the surface there. I think he's already too attached, so I'd cut the cord before it really does a number on him when you break things off. Honestly, I've known a couple guys like this and they had some serious stuff going on...rotten childhoods, horrible self esteems, really jealous tendencies...and really benefited from counseling. If possible, I'd break things off and remain friends so you can support him through whatever issues he's having, but I think it's best for both of you that things end. You're not feeling him, and he might emotionally free fall at any point, scary stuff!
11Before everyone goes and tells you to run and leave what could be a great relationship, I would talk to him about it and see if you can find the route of the problem. It sounds to me like he might have some issues with depression. When my fiance and I first started dating, he was dealing with depression, seeing a psychiatrist, changing around his meds -- and he acted the same way your boyfriend is. He told me he loved me first, he used to get SO UPSET whenever he would do something that would annoy me, curl up in a ball on the bed and cry and have a panic attack if I wasn't 100% happy with him all of the time.
12After continuing his therapy and readjusting his meds, it really improved. Now, he's off all his anti-depressants and has learned to cope just fine, and is not at ALL "too into me". Haha, I kind of MISS the way he used to treat me now and then -- I am no longer on any sort of a pedestal and he makes sure that I know it!
Seriously though, I would talk to him, see if maybe there is some depression going on, and see if he needs a little help for the time being. I wouldn't listen to everyone who tells you to run, because I was in the same situation and had I listened to them, I wouldn't be engaged to a great guy who just had some issues with depression which he was able to work through.
I agree with juliejulie..Sorry Julie but I was laughing when reading your comment.. @ curling up in a ball and crying..it is hard to picture a guy doing that..
13This is almost identical to a problem that was on here a few months ago. You need to let him know that his behavior makes you uncomfortable and he needs to deal with whatever issues are. IMO you really do not know this guy at all 6 weeks is not a long time and clearly he has emotional issues. I would back off and not spend entire weekends with him even if it means you need to stay in a hotel overnight.
14fine.
take your new boyfriend (who you seem to be scared of) to therapy and pray he gets better.
I'm glad to hear people say that therapy has helped them, because IMO, i really think it's a waste of time. I'm not bashing, that's just how I feel. So I'm happy for julie, who must have the patience and heart of a saint, cuz i wouldn't do it.
If u wanna give the guy the benefit of a doubt, ask him why he is the way he is about you and ask if he'll consider therapy. don't run.
15I think you should talk to him about it. It could be depression, anxiety, PTSD, or a number of other disorders. I mean, there is definitely SOMETHING wrong, but hopefully it's not just his personality. I feel sorry for him. My boyfriend thinks the world spins just for me, but he doesn't get depressed or cry for hours like your guy and I think that's the difference between being in love and being unbalanced. I think it'd be interesting to see what happens if you talk to him about it!
16my friend had bad experiences and found a good guy she struggled the same way and found him almost boring because she didn't have the chaos in her life...but in your situation, he is too good....almost to the point that it seems like a control tactic...be nice too you, call you all the time...totally unhealthy...like he is crying to guilt trip you or something...i say get rid of him....
17I agree with everyone on here
The guy sounds like a nut job...
Those kind of guys as stated ... turn into obsessive stalkers, and you don't want that..
he will also emotionally blackmail you as much as possible - like tell you he'll commit suicide if you break up yadda yadda
Run don't walk to the nearest exit
18I feel bad for him. Weeping? He should definitely seek a counselor and try and get out more. By the way it was described i thought it was a teenage boy. Again, i feel bad for this guy. You definitely need to talk to him whether you continue to date him or not, strongly suggest therapy.
19You're not doing him any favors in the long run by sticking with him.....you're just showing him that being clingy is acceptable behavior.
Ever heard of you have to be cruel to be kind? Tell him it's over-and tell him WHY. Then if you still like him, give him a chance to prove himself by not making you his one connection to the world.
20NO NO NO.
Honestly. Unless you're ready to bear the intense emotional weight this relationship will cost you, end it now. Some people do like the role of the "knight in shining armor" who's going to come and deal with someone else's deep-rooted emotional issues and problems and fix them- if that's your case, congrats and good luck. However, you've only been with the guy for a month and a half. I bet you have enough problems in your life as it is.
And seriously, from personal experience, this type of character is sketchy at best and psycho at worst. I had one such friend last year. He would go back and forth between me and his girlfriend. Then she dumped him and he started being like that with me: clingy, waaaay too nice, way way too needy.
In the end, he tried to rape me.
I don't know your new bf but if he's anything like my ex-friend was, seriously, you don't need that. oh and my guy turned out to be manic-depressive. he is now in a psychiatric ward after trying to kill his mom with a hockey stick.
21I hate to say it and I won't call the guy a nut but it sounds like he may have some serious co-dependency issues. I mean a month and half and he is crying like that and already in love. I mean some people fall in love fast but it sounds like he is dependent on you. I would say to leave but also recommend to him that maybe he might to see a therapist or something(of course he won't want to hear that but hey it's better to say something then not say anything at all) and who knows maybe then you guys can revisit the relationship.
22It seems like you should trust your instinct here (and always!!) - there's a reason you wrote in to the Sugars. Perhaps your previous experiences have honed your skills of perceptions. Speaking from my past experience, guys that are too clingy, etc. are just as toxic as the druggies and abusers and I absolutely agree with the other posters that point out that part of this person's person of you and who you actually are - are probably two different things.
Just remember that you have to kiss some toads to get to your prince (and yes, it bites - i'm still kissing toads as well, but I would rather go on kissing toads then marrying one), and know you are aware of a whole different set of RED FLAGS to be aware of in looking for a nice guy.
Good luck, and always talk to someone about any concerns you may have in your relationships, whether its a friend, sister, therapist - or the Sugars !!!
23take it all in love. some of us girls dream of having a guy like this one day. (Y)
24I'd be scaaaared.
25Get out. These are the types of guys that will track your every move in a relationship, question every action and just are generally scary to be around. And then when you break up with them, they leave 15 messages on your voicemail with nothing but sobbing into the phone. Cut your losses now, change your phone number or locks...whatever you have to do. I wouldn't even stick around to suggest counseling to him or whatever...I don't think it would do any good.
26This guy is a nut-bucket.
screw that, break up with him (gently). guys like that are the type that hold you hostage and kill you, then themselves . . .that's REAL talk!
it's good he lives far away, but i'm assuming he knows where you live.
all jokes aside, i would be scared, no terrified.
I don't play well with crazies.
27I agree with TFS.
28If you do not like the behavior, let him go to find someone who will, and you can try to find someone in between the douchebags you used to date and him..
Honestly... can you imagine telling someone, especially someone you're dating, that you think they need therapy? Maybe its just me, but if I was dating a guy and he said "k8, I think you should consider going to see a counsellor" I'd probably freak out on him... I think that will just make him feel worse about himself than he already does... he's going to think "Great, now she thinks I'm crazy" and who knows what he'll do... I'd just explain to him that he's doing too much too soon and you can't deal with feeling smothered. Tell him you care about him a lot, but you need time and space and aren't prepared to move as quickly as he is. Judge from his reaction what you should do next. If he agrees to calm down and slow down...perfect! If he freaks out, run like a bat out of hell.
29He sounds like a guy I dated in college- I lived on campus and he lived about half hour away- after 4 weeks he told me he loved me (I didnt say it back) and after that he told me CONSTANTLY that he loved me- to the point that I was really uncomfortable. Usually weekends I would go to his apt bc I shared a room where I lived and by Sunday morning I was counting the minutes until I could go home bc he was smothering me(and the goodbyes lasted at least an hour in the parking lot, him telling me he loved me, not wanting me to leave).
30A huge red flag I missed was a friend that he decided he liked and smothered her so much she moved 3 hours away to get away from him. She moved back for work after we started dating and we all hung out and she said he was completely different(he was focusing his insanity on me). I ran into her after I broke up with him and she said he started obsessing about her again after I broke up with him and she had to stop being friends with him again.
I seriously would consider ending this now- when I broke up with the guy, I was sure he wouldnt be surprised, I was so irritated by everything he did by then, even his laugh made me crazy- but he was SHOCKED. He thought everything was fine and even said that he thought they were so good that if they had kept being so great for a while longer he figured we would get married- it made me see that he really didnt pay attention to me at all- otherwise he would have had a clue that I wasnt happy.
drop it like its hot.
31Isn't it ironic how much people struggle to find what makes us happy? Like, how do you find the right balance? That's what dating is for I guess!
I'd say break things off before he tattoos your name on his neck or something outrageous like that.
He seems like a sweetheart, but he's just not right for you. Trust me, there are guys out there that are sweet, caring, responsible, attractive, and will keep you
interested. Good luck!
32Don't walk, but run, as fast as you can,away from any type of relationship with that looney toon ........
33Yes i agree, you should get out while you can, its better now then end up in a abusive relationship with him trying to take YOU and HIMSELF OUT!
34It's definitely healthy to find this fault in him.. Jeez! He probably has insecurity issues and not very many girlfriends. Tell him to back off or he'll lose you, and he will!
35Post like these make me think us women just like the bad boys. We always talk about wanting someone nice and sweet, and when he comes along we no longer want that. Personally I would not be upset if my ex cried about me leaving, and maybe he just has stronger emotional feelings than you do.
Try to be accepting of his differences, and be happy you have a guy who talks to you and who cares about you. To me he sounds like the type of guy who wants a relationship where he sees his woman every day and eventually gets married, but maybe you just do not feel that way about him.
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