Dear Sugar and Settled Down Donna need your help. She's married and all her girlfriends are single and ready to mingle. She doesn't want to feel like the outcast, but she's just over the party scene so what should she do?

Dear Sugar,
I have been happily married since last summer and we just moved into our dream house together. I love my calm and comfortable life with my husband, and when Friday night comes along, all I want to do is have a quiet night at home. The thing is, my girlfriends, whom I've known since high school, are still single and love to go out and meet guys. They constantly call me and try to persuade me to party with them, but I'm totally done with the whole loud, drunken bar scene.
I try to get them to come over to my house, or go out to a nice dinner together, but they're just not into it. I really don't blame them for wanting to live it up and have a good time, but they make me feel guilty for not going out with them "like we used to." They are constantly ragging on me for acting old and boring. I do miss hanging out with them, but they won't do what I want to do and I won't do what they want me to do so do you have any suggestions on how we can meet somewhere in the middle? I don't want to lose my friends just because I'm married. — Settled Down Donna









Barbara Bui
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Maybe you can choose a different night of the week to hang out instead of just Friday?
If Friday = party night for your friends, then maybe you can skip that night and choose Sunday to hang out, have brunch and go see a movie/shopping. And every once in awhile (maybe once a month or every two months), you can go out with them to dance?
Also, try and think outside the "stay home/bar scene" dichotomy. There's so much more to do besides that! Why not rotate a night every week where you plan an activity to do that's not staying home/going to a bar. That way, you all can be in charge of a different night and find some really cool things to do in your area.
Finally, just be open with them and keep the communication lines open. Tell them you want to hang with them, but would prefer to find some fun new ways of doing it. Saying "I'd love to try some new things with you all" sounds a lot better than "I hate the bar scene and all the drunken people surrounding it" (which to their ears probably sounds like "I hate hanging with YOU because you like to drink and flirt).
Good luck!
1I would maybe have a get-together at your house to play cards, or games and drink a little too!
2If what you don't like is the fact they go out to meet guys, you could suggest going out to have fun and go dancing, not necessarily hit on someone. I'm sure they'd understand that you don't want to either meet a guy since you're married, or be the only one of the group who stays at the table while the girls are hunting for men.
3i think that you should really open up to them. if they expect you to go out and be uncomfortable, that isn't very reasonable. i'm sure they like to do more things than just go out and party. why not do something else during the day?
4I'm on the other side of this situation at the moment. My best friends are recently married, and all they want to do now is stay at home with their husbands. I understand that their lives are different now, but when they reject my invitations out, it feels like they're also rejecting my friendship and my lifestyle. I can't count how many times they've said, "you're not married, so you wouldn't understand." Whether they're married or not, it still sucks when your girlfriends ditch you for a guy.
I would suggest that you talk to your girlfriends and make sure they know you love them and that they are still priorities in your life. Chances are, they feel abandoned like I do. If you can't find an activity for Friday night that you can all live with, then ask if you can switch off. Have them over for dinner one week, and then suck it up and go to the bar with them the next week. Friendships can take just as much work as marriage, but they can be just as rewarding, so sometimes a compromise is in order. It won't hurt either of you to do something you don't like every once in a while.
5Instead of trying to revamp their night out why don't you do other activities during the day, like shopping and lunch for example. You're the one who had a shift in your life (not that it's a bad thing) so you can't expect them to change for you but I'm assuming that partying wasn't the only activity you did with these friends before you got married so why not hang out at other times and do the other activities you all enjoyed together.
61. Your hubby could go with you and all of you could dance the night away.
72. Think lunch or brunch, shopping or a movie...that way you don't impede on them getting their groove on.
3. Don't criticize or be negative about them going out, just explain logically why you don't want to join them.
one of my best friends is married (and I'm not) and I completely understand where you're coming from. i think the important thing is to find something both u and your friends can do to maintain your friendship that won't feel one-sided. for example, i wouldnt ask my best friend to go to a club just because i like it. that's being selfish, isnt it? and i wouldnt want my best friend to only wanna do "domestic things"...meaning, spend time at home on Friday nights when single people just simply don't do that.
i agree with everyone else that single or not, married or not, everyoine always like movies, going out for brunch/lunch/or dinner, or shopping. and maybe once in a while, you can go out to a calmer lounge for a drink, and maybe once in a while, your friends can have a quiet movie night with you on a Friday and cook something fun together.
8I understand that you're over the scene, but if you won't ever do what they want, how can you expect them to do what you want? Meeting in the middle is just that - you both have to give a little. Go out with them and now and then and stay in with them now and then. But, don't expect them to hang out with you and your hubby. Have a girl's night in. And hold on to your friends! Friends are very important. Do your best to hold off the drifting apart.
9I think you should try to go out but maybe on a Thursday night with the girls at a bar/pub and not so much a club. That way you can still enjoy your friends and have some cocktails but not all the dram that comes along with the weekend partying.
10Your friends should also understand that you are not into that anymore and be willing to have a nice quiet dinner with you as well.
I identify with this post. Unfortunately, for me, after several years of marriage, a couple of girlfriends and I drifted apart. Nowadays, I heard that they're still single, and party harder then they used to.
I still have some girlfriends that made the transition. It took some adjustments and understanding on both our parts.
11If you don't want to do something you shouldn't be guilt tripped or forced into doing it. It might not even have anything to do with being married, maybe it's just not your scene anymore. If they're friends they will accept that and compromise a little bit.
12I say have a girls' night every once and awhile...we all need that. Your friends should understand and respect that you are married. People change and thats okay! Its call "maturing"! I will be honest some of my relationships changed after I got married..I didnt mean for them too..it's one of those things. Your interests change and there's nothing wrong with that. Like lemassabielle said they should compromise.
13I too have been on the other side of this equation. The biggest issue I had was when my married friend kept telling us single girls things like "I'm so glad I don't have to go out and try to meet guys at a bar" or "Don't you hate having to go trolling like that?" She would also invite us for dinner, but it was very awkward to have her husband sit there with us. Try inviting them for movies or out for coffee and be willing to listen about her wild nights, and work on showing them that you are still you. The main thing is that married girls often make their single friends feel like they are lesser, even without intending to.
14Most of my friends were like this until we just hung out in a different way and now they love it. It sucks being the only married one in your group and I'm the same way.
15you should just explain to them that you just want to stay home with the hubby or want to have a quiet dinner. Maybe you could have a dinner with them during a different day of the week and that way you get to spend time with them and thy get to spend time with you and everybody is happy =)
16I'm so glad I have friends who are versatile enough to vary their activities. I can chose not to go clubbing/drinking with them and I can chose to go shopping with them instead. And, quite honestly if she's done with the party scene she shouldn't have to suck it up and go to a bar as her single friends go out and 'meet guys'. What is she suppose to do? Hang around while they do that? How insensitive. They should know she can't do the same thing anymore now that she is committed to her husband.
17You better get use to the drift . . .it's gonna happen.
it seems like you're kinda like, "i'm married and i'm ABOVE clubbin' now . . ."; i mean after a while, they may just stop asking you to go out.
and that's where the drift begins. then, they will also get married, have children, etc. and you will hear about it via email instead of being the friend who buys the pregnacy test, or helps pick flowers for he wedding.
that's what happens when friends get too good for friends . . .
i doubt that you really feel this way, but i'm sure there are other factors to this situation.
18i don't expect my married friends to want to go out or be available for every trip because their lives are busy with their career, so any time they have to spare, they want to be with their hubby.
but my married friends also don't sit under their husbands and convert to "wifey". they still have their own lives and activitied separate from married life.
i did once have a friend who was in her 20s and got married, and she didn't want to do ANYTHING but sit under her hubby. she ditched us, and was arrogant and gave that "you're not married" speech. she would say things like, "when you get a man you will understand". rude b*tch (no longer friends, but not because of this).
and when she got divorced, (he left her for some low class girl that had a kid out of wedlock and no type of post-high school education OR a job), she was all over us again. but after her a*sy attitude, no one had any wrap for her. she would show up to things that she was "above" when she was married and try to be like the "old days".
it's like, we're not like Ziplock Bags . . .
all in all, be careful how you treat you friends during all of this . . .
19well since i moved to another city when i got married, i dont have my single friends to be choosy with =( i miss them ALOT.
BUT my husband is kind of in ur situation, because almost all his guy friends are single and they want to go clubbing and what not with him. but since id be alone he doesnt do that.
but i think u and ur significant other should set a couple nights a month for girls/guys night. on that night, u can go out with ur girls...i mean i was single at one point but i didnt spend every night out trying to find men, thats kinda pathetic! have non-men fun! is that so hard??
20maybe is just me...but I have never had to use the "i'm married now" excuse...I find it extremely annoying...and insulting to other people.
my friend got married AFTER i got married and all of the sudden she starts trying to talk on my behalf because..."WE married people don't do that"....it's ridiculous..our group of single/married friends has no contact with her anymore because the moment she got married she started acting like she was better than everybody else!! because her love was true and forever and she was above all the bullsh*t!!!???
I'm lucky my friends UNDERSTAND that if I want to spend the night with my husband, I will...and when they get a guy and they want to stay away from the group for a while we UNDERSTAND...luckily tho...my friends get along with my husband and sometimes he's one of the "girls"...
21Wow. I'm shocked and disgusted by some of the arrogant comments some of your married girlfriends made. How negative of them.
I'm married, but I don't harbor a condescending attitude towards my single girlfriends.
22I can see both sides of this. I've been the big partier and now I have a long term boyfriend. I got bored with the bar scene but who am I to put down my friends who go and act "above it."
Everyone at one point WAS into it so whether you became bored of it, have a boyfriend or are married that's no reason to act like you're suddenly better than those who choose to partake in it.
I feel like it's condescending to say that to your friends, there are 1001 ways to make other plans and politely pass on bar outings. You may be married now but that's no reason to forget what it was about to be young and single.
23DON'T go out to a bar with them, that is just asking for trouble on so many levels. the friends night in would be fun. or a sunday brunch for just the girls. when you first get married there is usually a "nesting" period where you don't see you single friends as much. then it relax's a little.
how ironic that they rag on you for wanting to stay home with your man when they are all out looking for one of their own.
24I was never really into the bar scene b/c I am not a drinker and smoke bugs me. So I got over it really quickly.
25When I got married my non married girlfriends and I(and other married ones)would regularly go to concerts, shows and dinners. We had large girls night outs. I don't think anyone invited me to a club, but they already knew how I was. If you stopped liking clubs before getting married I would say that you don't have to go, but if it is a "i'm married now and above that" kind of thing I would probably go with them once in a while.
I totally agree with a lot of what has been said, and really agree with McReverie's post. In addition to taking that advice, you also may want to find some new friends that have similar interests to you, like coming over for dinner or simpler girls' nights out. Don't feel bad for wanting to spend time home alone with the hubby either!
26You and your friends will need to find a compromise- either alternating between the activities that you enjoy and the activities your friends enjoy, or finding a third activity that isn't staying in or going to bars that you all enjoy.
27Aw, that sucks...I feel bad for you
Lucky for me, my friends and I are all the same age, we were into the bar scene at the same time and over it at the same time. All through college and up until around age 25, I was literally hanging out at a bar every night of the week. So were most of my friends. We loved the social scene of getting together for drinks. But gradually, we all started getting married, starting careers, etc. and we all grew out of that whole party all the time scene.
I still love going to bars, just not the same college-scene/clubby type of bars I used to go to. Maybe you can find a low-key bar that serves food and has pool tables, etc. that you could hang out with your friends at. That way, they're still getting that bar/social scene that they love, and you're not having to deal with obnoxious drunk 21-year-olds everywhere. You guys could get dinner and play pool, have some drinks...a low-key, fun night.
My other suggestion would be to organize a "girls' night in" at your place once a month or something. I'm sure your friends could give up ONE night a month at a bar. And you guys could have some cocktails, make dinner, gossip, play games, etc. at your house. I love nights like that with my girls.
Good luck
28I dont think you should have to feel bad because you're growing up and they arent. They sound immature. Maybe you need better friends, because it sounds like they only want to spend time with you on THEIR terms. If they cant handle ONE night of a quiet dinner with friends...then what the hell is wrong with them? Is it that hard to put down the cosmos and coke straws for five seconds if you truly care about a person? Some friends. You need new ones.
29I really resent the implication on some of these responses that unmarried=immature. It is a lifestyle choice that is just as valid as marriage, and nobody should need to apologize for being single and wanting to enjoy it.
30I dont know if your comment was directed at me, but I personally find anyone immature if they cannot put their own needs aside for at least one night, to have fun in a way that their friend can enjoy. They should at least have a little respect for the fact that its not the funnest thing in the world for a married lady to be among friends that are scouting for ass. I'm not saying she shouldnt participate in some of the things they want to do, but the art of the compromise is that both sides have to give in a bit, and it sounds like these party girls dont want to, at all. So yeah, that is selfish, and immature, and it has nothing to do with being unmarried and everything to do with the fact that they have not learned at all to put others first (good thing they arent married, then!)
31I suggest opening up to your friends and telling them how you feel. There were alot of good socialising suggestions above. But if neither party can compromise I say keep the channels of communication open. Call now and then and ask how their night was/How they are doing etc.......
.....But NEVER throw away friends. Friends come into your life to enlighten you and provide a new persepctive...they're not supposed to be carbon copy's of you..............
..............Even though you may be at different stages in life it doesnt mean that a call/email from them wont have the power to lighten up some of your sad days. Chances are some of those bar stories will give you a good giggle at work..............
It's amazing the reasons people can find to hate each other instead of love..........
32Great comment, sunland.
33Friendships change as we travel down the course of life. I was the last of my friends to settle down so I know all the phases of the group of girlfriends, from the first marriage to the last, and it's hardest on the first since everyone else is still into going out and partying.
My own take is that you have to accept that your life is different but theirs aren't. Make some new friends who are also married while maintaining your old friendships. Have the get-togethers on weeknights, as someone suggested, or do lunches on weekends; that sort of thing. But you can't expect them to change just because you have.
34I kind of agree with Trixie. It's not like the asker said, "my friends and I just can't seem to find anything to do anymore because they are so immature!" She said that they wouldn't even go out to dinner with her or come over to her house. So many people responded, "well go out to lunch or dinner, compromise!" It doesn't sound like they are really willing to compromise, that the only thing her friends want to do is go to nightclubs. No matter how much you like to go out, it's immature not to want to do other things too, like go out for cocktails or dinner or brunch or god, just stay in one night a month for a movie night! I don't think she should totally ditch these friends, but they don't sound that great.
I mean, leafonthewind, you can be unmarried, go out once a week, and still find time to do something low-key with a friend. If all of your social events include getting wasted and getting ass, yeah you are immature and this has nothing to do with the whole married vs. unmarried battle!
35Sorry, but I honestly think you are being extremely selfish. And your friends being somewhat selfish as well. You would go out of your way to do things you don't like to maintain your relationship with your husband. Why not do the same for your best friends? Just because you are "so over" the bar scene, doesn't mean that you can't partake in an activity that makes your friends really happy. They obviously miss you and want your company and I agree with so many comments, that they can also do things that make you happy, such as a nice dinner or watching movies/shopping. They need to work from their end as well to maintain their friendship with you. But honestly, unless you have kids, you can suck it up and go one or two Fridays out of the month for a night on the town with your best friends. And remember, a quiet dinner on a Friday night may not be THEIR ideal way of spending a Friday night either - it's you that has changed, so you can't expect them to change too just because you are married. Honestly, a quiet night in is the last thing I'd want to do on a Friday night, married or not. I just know that I would give a little for my friends, and expect my friends to give a little for me. Stop being so boring!
36I've been through this. Try to go out to dinner with them occassionally or just get together for drinks. Go out once a month and just deal. You'll end up having a good time in the end more than likely anyway. I also have our friends over at least once a month for a good party/get together. Especially in the summer, you can have everyone outside and it's not as much clean-up.
Most of my friends use to talk a lot of junk when I went through this phase. Now they are all going through the same thing and all of a sudden they understand. If they are your real friends they will still stick around. You all need to work together and take turns being the bigger one.
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