I can't help you from a religious perspective. Although, I'm sure Jerry Falwell wouldn't approve.

But from a human perspective, what you did was okay. It's natural to get curious and to expiriment. You'll either find that you like it or you don't. But don't beat yourself up about it.

It's totally normal to experiment, and to enjoy it. It doesn't mean you're gay or bi, it doesn't mean you're wrong or dirty. It means you're young and tried something new.
Don't you dare beat yourself up for it, i don't know even one girl that hasn't made out with another girl, just to see what it was like.

From a biblical standpoint, it was wrong. I'm not trying to upset anyone, but the bible is pretty clear on that. That said, everyone makes mistakes. You asked if it's wrong that you were curious... you can't really control that. What matters is your actions.

As usual, popgoestheworld said it perfectly.

It was only a kiss ...it was only a kiss la la la la la la!

I agree with missquiet. It's a sin - no greater or less than any other sin. The key is to ask for forgiveness from God (which He's already graced you with!) and learn from what happened.

just out of curiosity, can anyone cite the passage in the bible where it says that it's wrong for one woman to kiss another?

not trying to start a fight here, but i always here it's a sin yet i never knew the particular verse or book it's in...

tread lightly, ladies... I know we are all allowed to speak our minds, but calling homosexuality a sin is going to light some fires.

There is really no sugar coating it. Homosexuality is an illicit lust forbidden by God. This is all over the Bible. A few verses are Romans 1:24-27, I Timothy 1:10, Jude 7.

Obviously not everyone believes that the Bible is true or that there is even a God, but if the writer of the initial issue claims to believe in the Bible and if she has a relationship with God, she knows that it is a sin.

Nicachica, the main biblical passage commonly cited is this:

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. -- Leviticus 18:22

But thank goodness it doesn't say a thing about another woman having a couple drinks and making out with another woman.

Keep in mind the bible also has passages in support of slavery and treating women as property, both of which, thankfully, have been sort of, uh, glossed over in recent times.

And kimba, while I agree with you, this poster did ask for a biblical persepctive on the matter, and sadly, there are very few Christian groups who have come out in favor of homosexuality not being a sin.

I am not asking this to be rude, I am honestly curious.
The Bible also says bits about women being unclean during certain times of the month, and other things that women cannot do. Do we also believe those verses from the Bible?
I really just want to know how literally we are following it.

Sorry, popgoestheworld, but it sounds like you are taking pieces of the Bible you want to believe, and not accepting it as truth.

I would be interested to see these passages that "support" slavery and treating women as property. There are passages that refer to slaves and masters, but that was normal in those days. Homosexuality is the same then and the same now, and it clearly states it is wrong. Making out with another woman is clearly sinful according to the texts.

and you are definitely right pop... she did ask for biblical view. I just am not as familiar with the Bible and am looking for some more information.
I think that the comments given to her were helpful to what she was asking, I was just afraid that there would end up being some CRAZY MAD bashing.

thanks for the reference points Myblueheaven.

i don't agree at all that it's a sin but i always like to know the specific places where people get their arguments from (no matter your point of view or the topic) and i normally hear Leviticus as the main reference.

okay, now i just hope that this doesn't blow up into a "homosexual behavior is awful vs. homosexual behavior is not awful" discussion thread!

oops...sounds like it's getting there!

oh and thanks for the other reference Pop! i posted before i saw yours.

I'm really not trying to push buttons, just presenting the Biblical view she asked for. I realize that everyone believes different things! I just feel like if Christians start justifying "little" things like making out with same sex, lying here, stealing there, it's all downhill from there.

I agree, mybluheaven. She asked for a point of view and you gave her information for what she asked for.
I read what I wrote earlier and didn't mean to sound like I was pushing, I just get confused about some of the rules in the Bible.

Maybe we're using logic differently.

Homosexuality was obviously happening back then.

Slavery was obviously happening back then.

The bible condemns homosexuality.

The bible does NOT condem slavery.

So based on that logic, the bible condones slavery, no? Sure, it was part of life back then _as was homosexuality_. Yet only one of them was considered an abomination. They obviously saw a male lying down with a male as a sin, but owning someone was not a sin.

7kimba7, I totally understand! I certainly don't know everything I want to about the Bible but that's why situations like this make me dig into it a little deeper.

I get your logic, popgoestheworld. I don't have all the answers!! But we're not talking about slavery right now. We're talking about homosexuality - which clearly cut out for us as wrong.

Look, I've never changed anyone's opinions about religion and I'm not about to now.

My only point was that the bible has been used to justify slavery and denying women certain rights. That is just a fact of history.

I am simply using those as reference points to show that Christianity has been able to change their tune to reflect more progressive times. This has already happened in some Christian groups in regards to homosexuality but it is certainly not widespread like it is for slavery and women's rights.

thanks Myblueheaven.

i was a religious studies major in college and i always thought it was interesting how religion played out in the lives of everyday people and the many (good and bad) ways it's been used to impact our world, whether through service to the poor, starting wars, providing comfort and yet giving pain.

it's a dichotomy where people try to push their views up (i.e. religion is great, nothing bad ever happened or religion is horrible! it starts wars!) when really, it's a combination of both.

but i'm getting off topic so i'll just stop right there. gotta get back to work now...

I think pop raises a valid point regarding logic.

It's interesting which parts of the Bible people choose to follow literally and which parts to overlook.

I don't think the poster was wrong to experiment. Besides, it's done with. If you feel guilty for what you did, try to forgive yourself, move on, and do your best to avoid similar situations in the future.

Just to be clear, it's not our job to "forgive ourselves." Only God can forgive us for sins we commit. The proof that you have overcome something is if move on and turn from it.

This is an interesting discussion. The bible is not gray but black and white and as regards the issues about women and the uncleanness, before Jesus Christ sacrificed his life for our sins God's people were under the Mosaic Law which had a very different set of guidelines. Now that we are out of that things have changed greatly. As regards the slavery issue, that was a thing that people of that time did and it's not that God condones it but the bible mentions that in order to spare everyone from death he allowed some things to happen that were not as serious as others because of the "hardheadedness of the people" such as polygamy. As for the uncleanness of the women that was under the mosaic law. And furthermore whatever God decides to say is OK or not is no humans right to challenge.

NOW that i've said all that and ranted and raved, as regards the original question, I feel for you because I've been through the same thing and struggled with feelings of guilt. No one is perfect though and that's where the gifts of prayer and forgiveness come in. It's good that you care about what the bible says and if what you're doing is in harmony with what God wants. Good for you sweetie.

You were curious, I'm sure a lot of us have done silly things because we were curious. Just ask for forgiveness and it will make you feel better. I think the bible is a tad bit strong with homosexuality... I truly don't think you have a choice.. you are born gay or straight.. Bisexual, to me, is just someone who doesn't know which was to go, LOL! I also think a LOT of females have bi-tendencies because we naturally find women attractive. But I am not judging anyone or anything. I am also NOT generalizing anything... You can never be to careful stating your opinion... you are bound to piss someone off HAHAHA

The poster asked: "Do you think I was wrong for being curious ... ?"

I responded with my opinion and was not using the Bible to back me up. Self forgivness has been beneficial in helping me move past situtations I might have regretted.

Great debate here. I think there are those who take the bible quite literally and those for take it for what it is worth. To each his own on religion. I often think of the bible as this. Written thousands of years ago. Translated into different languages many times. Mistakes happen that way PLUS has anyone every played the game telephone? By the time the message gets there it is distored and changed?? People put in what they think they heard or what they want to hear.

Anyway, you are not wrong for this encounter. It was curiosity. You are not a bad person for this. Nor would you be if you were gay in my opinion.

amybdk
Thats true I agree with you because God aside and the bible aside, if we don't forgive ourselves how can we move on?

the only thing I have about the biblical references that have been made, as well as others, is that they never actually say 'the two men loved each other and that was wrong.'

I understand that there are portions particularly in Romans and even Jude with the story of Sodom and Gommorah that there are references to men 'doing unnatural sexual deeds' and the like, but it's difficult to get anything sexual out of the Bible that is straight forward.

Even the story that everyone references when talking about masterbation and 'spilling seed' isn't about masterbation, it has to do with a man who is 'supposed' to have sex with his brothers widow (as it was done in those day, he had to 'take care of her') and being unable due to guilt, so pulling out and spilling his seed.

That being said, the whole point of the Bible is for interpretation and believing as you will. I think she has to decide herself with some soul searching, and maybe religious councelling if she feels that strongly.

And I also think that while several of us here are very familiar with the Bible, and others not so much, we aren't really the people who should be telling her what is and isn't a sin. I say she goes to her church and gets help with her own decisions.

Just my very humble opinion.

kendalheart, that is exactly what I was thinking about the Bible! It was written so long ago, and SOOOOOO long AFTER Jesus's life. We are to believe that word for word this is all fact and true? I believe that the Bible is a great spiritual tool, and can help guide someone in her or his life, but to take it all literally can get everyone in trouble. Let me ask you myblue, do you obey your husband in all matters as the Bible suggests you do? If we were to all follow the Bible strictly as it were, women would not be free to do many of the things we so enjoy today.

That being said, yes - the original question was that she believes in the Bible and was this wrong. So, if you do believe that, then I suppose it was and you should do what you would normally do to atone for any sin you may commit in the eyes of God. This is something that you will have to deal with in a one-on-one with the Big Guy. That's the faith that you have given your life to. I do suppose people get curious. I don't agree with StefaPie that all women make out with another at some point in life...I never have and don't feel the need to in order to know who and what I want.

kiddylnd, i didn't say all, i said all the girls i know, there is quite a difference. especially considering almost all of my friends are very liberal and don't have much to do with religion.

making generalizations about this subject never get anyone anywhere. sexuality and religion are both incredibly personal things, and each individual has to find out for themselves what they think is right.

i don't think it's wrong, and it is done, so it's up to her to make peace with the situation in whatever way comforts her and resolves this for her.

I'm not so hung up on whether the bible says its right or wrong. I'm more concerned with the fact that you say you enjoyed it, but then say you know you'll never do it again.

Honey, if you wanna make out with girls, then make out with girls. Anyone who judges you for it, is out of line, and you have every right to ignore them. If you are more concerned with how your religious views and your sexual desires clash, well, thats a personal matter to work out by yourself.

But either way, you have to do what makes you happy.

A few drinks affects your decision making skills. Without those drinks, would you do the same thing or would you follow your beliefs?

just to throw a historic perspective in the mix, the Bible was not written by God or Jesus. a roman emperor made christianity official around 300 AD and that's when the Bible was written.... by humans.

Curiousity killed the Cat. It's a famous saying, for what it's worth.

Um, levieenrose, I'd really like to know where you read that. I went to a bible college and studied the history of the bible... what you said is like nothing I've heard. Are you referring to the New Testament only?

That's interesting because 2 Timothy 3:16 says "All scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving and for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness."

I can say honestly how I see why so many comments on here tend to be that holier than thou attitude. Makes perfect sense.

Because wikipedia is probably more or less right...

Quoting entry re: The New Testament - "The original texts were written in Koine Greek by various unknown authors after c. AD 45 and before c. AD 140. Its books were gradually collected into a single volume over a period of several centuries. The New Testament is a central element of Christianity, and has played a major role in shaping modern Western culture."

The christians are the worst judgemental people i have come across.They use the bible to judge other people.It aint a sin 2 b gay .Judging others is just as sinful as the other biblical mentioned sin.Please sin is da same

If the issue for you is a religious question, no one else can make the decision for you. I am personally not religious, but if you think that doing more with your friend will go against your beliefs, and if *this* makes you unhappy then don't do it. No one has the right to judge you on whichever decision you make, it's up to you to see what will make you sincerely happy and comfortable with your life.

I re-read my comment and it might've sounded a little rude. I'm not a very judgmental person at all! Far from it. I've done plenty of things I'm ashamed of (much worse than what the questioner did!) and would never intentionally have a holier than thou attitude. Sorry if my comment came across that way! But to generalize Christians as holier than thou and judgmental is just crazy. I've known plenty of judgmental people who call themselves Christians, and just as many who are atheist. The same goes for the nicest, most giving and caring people I've met.

Thank you popgoestheworld! Those Wikipedia dates are the same ones taught at my college. I just like to know where people get their information...

Anyway, this is all way too off-topic for me, so, here's where I'll shut up

Speaking from a bisexual point of veiw, this happens all the time. I've kissed plenty of straight girls and it was just that, kissing. That doesn't make you a lesbian, or bi, or anything "sinful"
There was a recent study done that showed monkeys with homosexual and bisexual tendencies. This shows that, whether you believe homosexuality is wrong or not, it does show that it is completely natural.
What matters is that you're comfortable with your experience and your sexuality.

I really don't see calling homosexuality a sin as judging people. I sin every single day in lots of different ways - so I'm just as guilty. The good news of the Bible is that God provided a way for people to be freed from their sin through salvation in Christ.

I just don't like to be called judgemental. I wouldn't act differently toward a gay person than I would a straight person. Who am I to judge when I am but a mere sinner? But, now I'm completely off the topic of this post, so I'm done.

Ok I grew up in the church (my dad was an assistant pastor) and I know that Christians can be very judgmental people.

I am not here to judge... just to let known my opinion.
I think what she did was perfectly fine. Experimenting is just that... I know what the Bible says about homosexuality, yet I think that every person should live their own lives.
However... all the people who condemn homosexuality... how many of you are having sex before marriage? Because that is wrong in the Bible too... Just saying.
*Let it be known* I am currently in a relationship (not married) and I am having sex... so I am not saying I think you sinned... but if strictly speaking about the Bible...

I don't know much about the bible, so perhaps you want to disregard what I'm about to say.

I don't think you did anything wrong. You didn't hurt anyone, you were just sharing a sweet encounter.

But your religion tells you otherwise, so it simply isn't that easy, is it? I urge you to find a way to forgive yourself for going against what you've been taught, and perhaps use this as a message from whatever you do believe in to perhaps re-examine your perceptions an ideas. A gift, if you will. A challenge.

This is a really interesting discussion!

If you sincerely believe that homosexuality is a sin and you will feel guilty about experimenting bisexually, then don't do it. If you consider your beliefs and decide that you don't strongly believe that it is a sin, then do whatever makes YOU feel comfortable.

From a religious perspective, are you familiar with the concept of continuing revelation? The Bible condemns a LOT of things that even good Christians do routinely. If you are truly going to follow the Bible literally, you can't eat pork, rabbit, shellfish, or cheeseburgers, for example. You can't wear clothes made from mixed threads, touch the skin of a dead pig (bye bye football!), work on the Sabbath, or many other things. All of these things are condemned in language as strong as that condemning homosexuality. Some are punishable by the death penalty. Meanwhile, the Bible does provide guidelines for how to sell your daughter into slavery (Exodus 21:7-9), decrees brutal punishments for slaves who dare to complain about being sold away from their own spouses and children, etc. The concept of continuing revelation is used to kind of "gloss over" unpleasantries like these and some have applied that same concept to homosexuality.

For what it's worth, I personally believe Jesus has declared the two highest laws to be "love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, etc." and "love thy neighbor as thyself" (Matthew 22:36-40) and so I apply the concept of continuing revelation and follow those parts of the Bible that are in line with His Words as I understand them, and consider the nit-picky stuff like what I eat for dinner and the fact that my aunt's life partner just happens to be another woman to be obsolete or of lesser value. I believe God made homosexuals as He made heterosexuals, and it is inconsistant with my belief in a loving God to believe that He would create people to be basically damned from birth.

Huny85 - You are make a judgmental comment yourself by stating that Christians are the worst judgmental Christians. Yes, some Christians are judgmental but not all of us are. And just because you might disagree with what we believe doesn't mean you have to label us with a hateful word. Everyone is a sinner, so we have no right to judge someone else.

I personally don't know if this poster committed a sin or not, like others said the Bible has gone through many revisions and some words have been lost in translation, but the essence of God's word is supposed to remain the same.