Though Lindsey Lohan is probably the poster-child of Fauxmosexuality, it might not be fair to her. I certainly went through an over a decade phase of dating both men and women. I settled on men when it came to marriage, but needed to experiment to find myself. I think she's doing the same thing.

I think a fauxmoseuxual is more like two straight girls making out at a bar to get attention. It's sort of sad.

I hate women who pretend to be all into girls when they are not. That is complete and utter desperation for male attention, and of course the attention from other women who you want to envy you for being "so hot you can even get a GIRL". That is pathetic high school behavior, yet you see it happen all the time with women particularly in their 20's as well. Why someone would do something just for the sake of getting attention is beyond me. Obviously you must not have a great personality if you need to go pretend you're gay or whatever, and act like it's a joke to get the kind of attention you want. I am glad I am not one of those women. Because when I was single...it was the EASIEST thing to get guys. I didn't have to make out with chicks and pretend to like it for attention. I am way better than that.

Oh, and no -- I have never made out with a girl, why? Because I am STRAIGHT, not bi, not bi curious, not homosexual -- straight. When you are straight, you don't make out with girls. Period. How is it "fun" or "attractive" if you're not into it?

And as for bisexual people -- I am sure there are women who feel bisexual at one point, and have an attraction to women, whatever. But if you marry a man -- and you date almost exclusively men -- I would have a hard time believing the bisexual bit. I don't think it's possible to be completely center. There is always a gender you prefer more -- and looking at who you date long term or marry is an obvious sign of it.

But anyway, to all the women who want so desperately to be liked that you pretend like you really love hooking up with women -- I am glad I'm not like you! Some people can be liked by being themselves.

Chrstne: Your third paragraph there seems to imply that if you end up with a man you are really straight (and not bisexual) or if you end up with a woman you are in reality gay (and not bisexual).
I myself am bisexual. I've had girlfriends and boyfriends. I am currently in a long term relationship with a man because that is who I fell in love with. I fell for the person, not the gender. I am with my boyfriend, but I am still very much sexually attracted to girls too (that part of me doesn't shut down). Being bisexual is sometimes simple, other times there is a lot of grey area, but unless you are actually bisexual it may be better not to try and work bi people into groups and subcategories (or add extra labels). Real bisexual people love other people, not specific genders.
But I think something everyone can agree on is fake-bi chicks are stupid, juvenile, pathetic and attention-starved.
Although I think it would be funny is guys randomly made out in bars just to try and turn the girls on. Ha!

Agreed. Those girls need some self-respect and confidence.

I completely think that a woman who experiments with another woman, can be absolutley straight.

Most of those girls make out with the same friend or group of friends on a regular basis. That's a sexual relationship with another woman by my standards. Just because they only do it in the bar or never go past kissing doesn't mean they're not having a sexual relationship. I have had relationships with guys where all we did was make out. We didn't go any further for whatever reasons, but the relationship was still sexual.

Of course they're looking for attention! Plus, there's the benefit of being "wild" and saying "well one time..."

But I also think there are girls out there who might be curious and think they can make out with their friends as the socially accepted, cool thing to do while partying as a way to mask what they're really doing...trying to see if they really do like making out with girls.

oh well....people are silly and do crazy things. I guess it's up to the person to decide their path and hope for the best!

Gosh, Chrstne, judgmental much?

Not everyone experiences sexuality the same way you do. Every heard of the kinsey scale? It's a famous clinical gradient of sexuality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

How else are you supposed to figure out who you're attracted to if you don't go experiment?

Oh, if you look at the data for the Kinsey scale, 7% of women are totally bi, About 6% are primarily lesbians who enjoy the occasional man, and only 3% are totally gay. That's a lot of bisexual experimentation.

@spacekatgal- thanks for bringing up the kinsey scale before i had a chance to. chrstne, you sound ridiculous and ignorant. bisexuality can and does it exist, and its wrong to question other people's sexualities because you don't understand them and can't personally relate to them. it's kind of stupid.

anyway, the fauxmosexual trend is irritating because anytime i tell a straight male i'm a lesbian i can almost guranteed at some point they're going to ask me if they can watch, or if i want to do a threesome, as though my sexuality ONLY exists for their personal titillation. i also think it's sad for the girls who participate in this barsexual behavior, if you're willing to make out with someone you're not attracted to for male attention what else are you willing to do? it's about self respect.

Thank you Smacks. You said that much better than I could have. I happen to be with a man now because I fell in love with him, but it could just as easily have been a woman, and I've been in love with and had relationships with both.

As for the girls who are bi until the frat party is over - Please, get some self respect. There are better ways to get a guy's attention.

I've expiremented once or twice with kissing women, but didn't find I enjoyed it. It wasn't to impress anyone else or get attention, I just thought I'd give it a shot. *shrug* Not so much for me. There's something I love about a stubbly face when I'm kissing someone.

That's why I don't like Katy Perry. I think she just cashed in on teenage girl's confusion. I believe truly gay people are born with a homosexual inclination. And other people are just partying and don't see any problem with or consequence of acting out gayness.

This year with all the open conversation I see that some people don't want to claim that they are gay, they'd rather be called bisexual, rejecting the gay term like it's wrong or dirty.
To me, a straight woman, that's just gay with a broader definition. Most gay men would never have sex with a straight or gay woman. But it seems more likely that a gay woman will have sex with either a gay woman or straight man. And I think the difference is body parts and the disease risks.
It affects straight people as well. If I were dating a man who 'tried homosexuality' even once, I'd be pissed.

That's why I participate in the conversations here. I don't need to know personally but I have children that I have to have this conversation with. I've never known a person who was openly gay or experimental but my teenage daughter has a gay male friend at school and sees gay teenagers all the time. The kids in elementary school, especially the boys use terms like 'that's so gay' or 'you're so gay' if the guys aren't athletic or get good grades.
I just have to clear up misconceptions in my own home. Not to mention, because I'm a divorced woman who hasn't had the opportunity to date a decent man so I'll go out with a female cousin or sister...society automatically assumes... gay. It's quite irritating when you are straight and looking for a straight mate as well.

Never said bisexuality didn't exist. I have opinions, just like everyone else...and if makes me ignorant, so be it. I have in fact heard of the kinsey scale, which is all well and good...but to me, you always have a preference. I, however, am straight. I don't need to experiment, because I know I am straight. Even bisexuals know which one they lean more towards, hence, the kinsey scale which shows the varying degrees of bisexuality. Even if you rank a number one, you're bisexual...but you still have more heterosexual tendencies.

Some people can be in the middle...but most people go farther to one side or another. I have nothing against bisexuals -- but still in all, bisexuals figure out which one they are attracted to more at one point. Obviously if you marry a girl, that love of the girl won over. It doesn't make you gay, it means you made a choice, and you preferred to marry a woman.

Big deal.

I'm glad you brought up the Kinsey scale as well, spacekat.

I would go even further than Kinsey and say that sexuality is on a continuum with an infinite number of different "numbers." (I believe Kinsey assigned seven, correct?) What Kinsey did was revolutionary for his time, but it didn't take into account transgendered people, etc. For example, if someone is physically male but identifies as female and has sexual relationships exclusively with men, is she gay or straight?

Pensa: There are consequences of acting out gayness? That statement implies there are no consequences in acting out being straight.
And please explain why a lesbian would seem more likely to have sex with a straight man?
The difference is body parts and disease risks? What?!

I've never understood lesbianism. If a woman straps on a fake penis isn't that simulating having sex with a man? If that's the case, then it makes perfect sense that a gay woman wouldn't mind having sex with men occasionally.

Pensa, that's not the only way women have sex. That's like saying if a woman has a man perform oral sex on her, she wouldn't mind having another woman perform oral sex on her.

Smacks: a fake penis doesn't have real sperm that can carry STDs.
The consequence is obviously the social backlash or prevention to be married.
And lesbians, as someone else stated, have have gone back and forth much more than gay men.
Any more expert opinions and you're going to have to ask a gay person.

I avoid that issue because I think all oral sex is nasty. lol But that's just me.

Well, it wasn't really just about you, it was about all straight women.

I know it was directed at Smacks, but I don't really get what you're saying in #20. Can you elaborate.

On another note, I frequently go out to dinner, bars, etc. with my sister or my female roommate. I've never had anyone assume I was a lesbian.

What was rude about what I said. I asked you to elaborate and you started calling names, but I'm the one who's b*tchy?

By the way, I'm straight, as well. I was just trying to better understand your viewpoint by asking you to elaborate. What's so b*tchy about that? It seems to me that you're not trying to make progress. You just accuse others of being rude when someone asks you to explain your position.

I honestly don't think I was coming across as b*tchy, but if I was that was not my intention. I was just honestly confused and quite surprised at your comments.
And to clarify, lesbians don't really go back and forth, bisexuals do. If a lesbian has sex with a man its because she was experimenting (same as if a straight girl has sex with another women...to see if its something they may like or not).

@lilkimbo

I'd agree that sexuality is WAY more complicated than a seven point scale, but you have to somehow quantify it for a research methodology. Kinsey has frequently been criticized for being too simplistic a way to look at the issue.

Pensa, I don't see anyone being catty here. I think she was just trying to further understand what you were saying.

I don't have a "problem" with people assuming I'm a lesbian either when I'm out with the girls - though I suppose I have a few things that tip that way. I own a Vespa, not a car. I'm six feet tall, and I run seven miles a day. I think when your general vibe is femmy, people assume you're straight.

oy, this could be bad.

First, I think fauxmosexuals are ridiculous ninnies who can't stand on their own. They have to pick up what ever seems to be cool and happening to attract the opposite sex. Apparently, they think it is lesbianism.

Second, I agree with both chrtne and lilkimbo - I have spoken with a number of bisexuals and it seems that most have a leaning towards one gender more than the other. It does not mean they are not bi, just that they have a particular preference. I have seen that this is somewhat cyclical for those who fall into this category. I have rarely met an "I have ABOSULTELY no preference" bisexual. I also believe that the Kinsey scale is very simplified and could not possibly include every variable of sexuality.

Symphonee...extra points for using the word "ninnies"!! I love that word and think it needs to find its way back into regular usage.

@pensa - I don't think anyone is being b*tchy to you here. By far this is one of the tamest discussion of sexuality that I have encountered here. To be completely honest, it seems as if the moment someone questioned your comment you took it as b*tchiness. That is not a far to go about the learning process here. You are talking to some of the most honest, straightforward and non aggressive people I have EVER encountered on a message board. (and I am an African American who signed up on White stormfront!)

I made out with a couple girls in junior high - in private - and not for attention. I'm straight. But we were kinda curious what it was about. I'm not bi or a lesbian - I was just a kid who experimented with her sexuality.

Anyway, I agree that sexuality is a little more fluid than some would like it to be.

This is a funny word though, and good for describing girls who make out for attention.

i was with a girl befor i was ever with a man, how ever i date men and i am still the same amount sexualy attracted to women. i am in the middle. i aldo cant stand women that fake the front to get attention that just turns something beautiful into something sleezy.

I totally agree that most people have a preference one way or another - the research proves it. But, having a preference and experimenting doesn't mean that bisexual feelings aren't valid. Sexuality can change over time.

Here's a concept from queer theory I find very applicable. There's sexual orientation, but also affectional orientation. I find myself very affectionately oriented towards relationships with men, though numerically, I've had sex with a lot more women. I ended up marrying a man because of those qualities that make a long-term relationship work.

It's not about me. I don't feel attacked personally, I'm solid in who I am. In all honesty, questioning my opinions can't go very far because the extent of my opinions on homosexuality that are fair enough to share are previously stated. It's not that I don't like being questioned, there's nothing to question. I said sperm doesn't come from a plastic penis...what question makes sense?

Pensa, no one else had commented after your last comment other than me. I certainly don't assume it's all about me, though. I actually pretty specifically stated that no one had said anything rude. I explained what the intention was behind what I had said because I can only explain my intentions, not anyone else's.

And what's wrong with giving an opinion of someone else's opinion? Isn't that the entire point of commenting? Part of the reason I like the Sugar network is because there is more of a conversational vibe, rather than just people commenting strictly on the article. I "call other posters out by name" because I don't won't people to be confused about whom my comment is directed at.

You did respond to me, so I don't see how you can say that you've learned not to.

Additionally, I asked you further explain your comment so I could understand what you were saying. How is that responding without fully comprehending?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affectional_orientation

Sorry, I forgot this link to affectional orientation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affectional_orientation

I didn't understand the second part of this sentence:

The consequence is obviously the social backlash or prevention to be married.

The "prevention to be married part." I was just trying to further understand where you were going with that.

And spacekat, I definitely agree that the Kinsey scale is a good place to start. I've read a bit about him (though not as much as I'd like), and I love how revolutionary he was for his time!

And I couldn't possibly be mistaken for 'butch' so the thinking I'm gay just goes back to the age old 'if she's not with a man she must be 'turned' gay'. I didn't know that was a new concept. There's nothing for me to explain. It's just a passive-aggressive way of attacking a person for asking or presenting questions/statements that evidently struck a nerve.

No, it wasn't an attack at all. I was just explaining my experiences.

And I honestly don't understand what you meant by the end of the sentence I posted about in comment #37.

like always... baited to be reported. somethings never change.

Huh?

Pensa, I see you've only been a member for two weeks. I don't remember ever having contact with you before. Where is this coming from?

as I was saying to Symphonee and Spacekatgal... because I have no contact with homosexuality except through the media which misconstrues so many truths and relays false stereotypes I want my children to be exposed to more truths so that they are tolerant and informed. I thought that was the point in open discussions.

Point taken... and proven.

Pensa, in the interest of an educational discussion - I'd like to agree with Sloane that liking penetration doesn't nessararily mean you want men. There are very realistic strap ons that even use water as simulated ejaculate. All it means is that feeling helps you reach orgasm.

Orgasming is so much more complicated for women than men. There are many women who need oral sex to come when having sex with men. It doesn't make them lesbians!

Bri

Good point, sloane. I definitely think the Kinsey scale is a great jumping off point.

I have to agree with spacekatgal. There are some who categorize different types of orgasm that a female can have i.e. anal, clitoral, vaginal, etc. Penetration during sex does not a straight woman make. some women do prefer to have nothing but oral sex but they would rather experience it from a man. Nothing is ever cut, dry and simple in sex.

Ya see, the water dildos... didn't have a clue. Thanks for that information. I'm straight on sex ed, but thanks for that as well.

Symphonee, from what I've been told by my teenage daughter and her friends, your statement is exactly why some teenage girls are confused. They actually think they may be a lesbian because they don't want to have sex. I know I'm straight because I'm just not attracted to women. I love everything about a man from his strong jawline and deep voice to his somewhat ignorance to all things feminine. I could be in love with an incompetent man but the fact is young girls and young adult women don't know that yet and they are confused. My previous statement was just to remind the ones who do call names and attack people for asking questions not to scare them off. Straight people get blamed but gay people with bad attitudes and a 'get you before you get me' attitude do their damage as well.

Pensa, what's the problem if they are confused? Gosh, I think it's the opposite problem when parents are so freaked out and controlling about sexuality that the kids can't be free to figure out what works for them.

I'd love to see a day where girls can kiss girls and boys can kiss boys without all the politics. I think, generally speaking, when parents do something in the name of "protecting the children," it's about their own fear.