Wrath, FTW.

What a larf.

I'd love to be able to find more of the report, this doesn't tell enough. What countries does the report cover, how scientific was the study? That men and women sin differently wouldn't surprise me. That women's greatest sins are pride and envy would - and that's what I'd like to know more about.

This is completely BIASED! Men and their pride!

We know how I get in trouble here over religion Tia, but what the heck: without seeing the report, you do have to wonder about a 95-year old priest's interpretation.

eh i kinda sorta agree but i think men also suffer from serious pride it just ain't us women.

Is this like a compilation? I thought that confessions and things were confidential...

If you're gathering this information, wouldn't the reporting priests and whoever have to classify specific sins in the categories of the Seven Deadly ones? How do we know they classified them correctly?

A lot of this seems fishy. But I don't think any of it has to do with gender inequality. Women and men are different biologically and there are studies to show that women and men do even think differently - so I wouldn't be surprised that there are things that women get more riled about than men, and vice versa.

I'm kind of surprised that Anger made the women's list. Pride and Envy I can see [hello, we get bombarded with crazy unrealistic images of beauty and how we've GOT to have it or else we're unloveable or something]. The men's list I can definitely believe, haha.

Steph, I'm actually uncomfortable with him taking confessions out of the box and on the rode!

Look around - it's not just overweight men we see... I have a hard time believing that one of women's top sins isn't gluttony. I think that one is one that is non-gender biased for sure.

And the more I think about it I think I too would like to see the basis of this study. There are alot of men in prisons for violent crimes wouldn't that fall under anger? possibly even pride too.

I agree with tia--male pride? C'mon. That's a total given.

I think we sin differently, but I'm not really sure I would go by this study to prove it.

I don't think I agree with that at all.

I'm with you too tia, I know too many men who are just too proud never stopping to ask for directions or refusing to call the handyman because they can fix it themselves. Yeah right

I want to see the guy who walks up to some angry dude, and tell him he should calm down he is acting like a "girlyman"

I think what this analysis shows that regular church going practicing Catholics men and women who use the confessional, have a different perception of what is being "sinful". It would be a mistake to make a general conclusion from a biased sample. I am using the term biased as used by statisticians dealing with discerning a valid random sample.

I do think male priests would see pride in women differently then another female would. They might see "i don't want to have sex daily with my husband" as being too prideful.

hausfrau, I am not sure I am right on this, but I was under the impression a person went in and confessed his or her "sins". I am not sure the priest has a check list and says OK I will name them, and you will number them, stopping and eliciting further information if he does not like a response, or at the end of a session, stops and says "Oh by the way sir, how much do you eat, you look a bit porky to me", or young lady, "I notice your quite elegant tonight, does it bother you if another girl looks better then you?"

Who come FUNK isn't a deadly sin?

There are fair to many funky (and I don't mean hip and cool) men walking around. Men in California who smell like a nightmarish mix of Dakkar Nior, feces, urine, a years worth of sweat, BO, rotting pickles and eggs that have been left in the sun for a year.

Here's the deal either Funk becomes a deadly sin or else people should wear deodorant daily or if you're all hippy about natural body smells and not wearing deodorant then you must bathe either daily or every other day.

Oh wait I don't believe in this shill.

Good grief I am still using the wrong words in places - fair should be far

I am sorry there are a specific list of deadly sins, that are sins if you as an individual harbor in your heart, not even act upon. They are known as the seven deadly sins: Avarice, anger, lust, envy, and greed. It was that that President Carter was referring to in that famous playboy article when he said: “I've looked on a lot of women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times” and all the comedians had a field day with it.

Oops I left out pride

It's too bad I do not have 7 fingers on one hand, I also left out sloth

I thought they go in and confess their sins and then then get to elaborate and ultimately the priest tells them which one it is??

I'm a terrible Catholic.

I always thought you committed the sins, and went in to brag about it.

I think this is wrong. But also, inaccurate and totally unscientific. The "sins" are self-reported, so maybe women are lustful but just don't feel bad about it and vice versa.

Children are taught to figure out which of the commandments they broke, not which of the seven deadly sins they exhibited.

Wow sexist much? Got to love the stereotypes at work here.

I am thinking (guessing) that the good priest was talking about older then grade school men and women. I was in grade school when I learned the 7 deadly sins, along with the 8 beatitudes, the 7 virtues,

You generally don't actually confess to a specific "deadly sin" in confession, though. You confess to your sin. So, like haus said, a woman could go in and say something and a man could say something similar, but the priest might see it as sinful in the man but not in the woman.

Additionally, one person might confess her jealousy of her friend's perfect hair as a sin, while another might think it's just human nature.

I have a question. Does this really matter now that you can get indulgences? Can't I just go into confessional, slip an indulgence under the screen, and walk out forgiven?

Dave, even without the indulgence you walk out forgiven. That's the point of confession.

UNDave, no you can't. If you go up to the beginning of the post I explain what is the churc's position as to what is required for an indulgence

Kim, a better way to say it is forgiven not forgotten, you are forgetting purgatory. There is still an unpaid price due for those sins. The purpose of that plenary indulgence is to wipe the slate clean as to paying that price.

I thought Kim did say forgiven?

I guess the analogy, would be I forgive you for burning down my house, but you will still have to pay a price for doing it. The judge takes into account the seriousness of your "contrition" (using the term as used in dictionary, not the sacrament itself), in setting your sentence. Let us say, taking an extreme example, I kill someone. The sentence proscribed is death by electric chair”. The judge can take into account the state of your mind then and the state of your mind now. Depending how truly contrite you are, you may not even get “life without parole”. You will though get some sentence, 50 years, 30 years. 20-25 years. The plenary indulgence is like a presidential pardon; however it will be God, not the Pope, who has the final say. The Pope can send his lists up there saying those on the list deserve a full pardon, but it is God, who makes that decision, by going into the heart and mind of the transgressor.

I understand it very well; I've been Catholic my whole life. I was just making sure I was reading Kim's comment correctly but I thought she did say forgiven.

Again, using an analogy, take life as a great swamp you must cross. There are a number of paths you can choose to get there, They all will eventually get you there, but some paths may be harder the others, or a particular path is one you know the most about, so you take it for comfort of knowing what is ahead. You can stray from that path, and still get through that swamp alone, but it is harder and more dangerous. The plenary indulgence might be like a part of the path is paved for you. Just because it is paved, does not mean that bad weather could not have washed it on you. I can help you along the path; I can not control the weather.

lilkimbo, I cross posted you.

Grandpa I haven't forgotten anything tyvm. I am fully aware of how confession works. As far as the Church is concerned, Purgatory is for anyone whether you've been to confession or not - not matter how small or big your sins are.

I did lilKim, ty

Dave, even without the indulgence you walk out forgiven. That's the point of confession.

Umm, confession itself doesn't wipe the slate clean. Penance is the more important part, not the actual confession of the sins.

Before you leave the confessional you are absolved of your sins. You walk out of there forgiven, yes there is penance to be done, but you walk out of the confessional forgiven.

That's what they teach at my daughter's school Kim, and that's what I learned light years ago.

Pardon me, be practicing Catholic.

I like to think I was a practicing Catholic at one time. Despite all that practice, I never could get it down right.