The much be-hyped town hall debate brought the candidates close together on the bright red carpet, the people closer to the candidates, and perhaps the undecideds closer to a decision? Between the discussion happening here, and the sparkily veiled tension on the stage, how did this match up fare? Here's what we thought:

Citizen:
The biggest shot in the arm this debate format provided was bringing the issues down to the individual level. The audience was intimate and the scrutiny felt equally as close — both from the questioners and Tom Brokaw, who proved to be a ruthless but level moderator. I was nervous about the "real people" questions (you saw the snowman debacle, I don't always like a Pro-Am) but some of them were great.
One in particular from an 80-year-old who lived through the Great Depression — she asked what kind of sacrifice we as Americans should make that wasn't just the blood of our Armed Forces. McCain's answer focused on spending saying, "We're going to have to tell the American people that we're going to have to have a spending freeze. . . we can establish priorities and full transparency. . . and I'm going to tell you Americans that we'll get to work right away." Obama continued the answer speaking to civilian service and expanding the Peace Corps, a different take on it to be sure.
To see the rest of my thoughts and what Liberty had to say, read more.
When the discussion turned to health care the tension ratcheted up several notches along with the interest. McCain lasered in on the government mandated aspect of Obama's plan, and slammed home the choice-and-freedom aspect of his $5,000 tax credit. Then Brokaw asked a point-blank smacker: is health care a privilege, a right, or a responsibility. McCain answered "responsibility," Obama, "right."
Overall McCain was not shy about going for the jugular, on several instances catching everyone off guard with his good-natured intensity. In particular, his calling out of Obama as "that one," was a heated moment no one missed. The last question, "what don't you know and how will you learn it?" provided the candidates a moment to wrap up. McCain seized the opportunity for his most compelling and lucidly forceful riff of the night saying, "I know what it's like to have your comrades pick you up and put you back in the fight, and that's what this country is all about."
A game-changer it was not, but an inning? Yes, and then some.
Liberty:
Tonight both candidates seemed a little tepid and defensive. I kept waiting to see some spirit or contagious passion.
During the discussion on government spending John McCain kept hitting Barack Obama on "increased spending." Obama defended his position as smart taxing and smart spending. He made it clear that it's inevitable that the government is going to tax and it's going to spend — but what's crucial is giving the tax breaks to the right people, and using the collected money for efficient and fair programs.
The dying debate got a burst of virility during the health care discussion — McCain described health care as a responsibility while Obama called it a right. Obama spoke clearly and concisely about his position. He came off as genuinely concerned about the uninsured and those with preexisting conditions, and pointed to the drastic differences between his plan and McCain's. He landed a strong punch when he noted that the Chamber of Commerce said McCain's health care plan would destroy employer-based coverage. McCain drew up concerns of government mandates and bureaucracy, while Obama said he wanted to preserve choices.
Obama took McCain's theme from the last debate, that Obama "doesn't understand," as a chance to highlight differences in judgment. Connecting the economy to Iraq, he noted that the US spends $10 billion a month in Iraq, while Americans are out of jobs. Noting that no country has maintained military superiority while its economy declined, Obama made it seem like McCain is the candidate that does not understand a complex world.
What did you think? Did McCain do what he needed to? Was there a clear winner?
The opinions expressed here are those of the authors, CitizenSugar and LibertySugar, and do not necessarily reflect the positions of Sugar Inc.









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It was a WIN depending on where you sit. Obama hit a home run on healthcare. McCain did good on the load buy up -- but that's not a new concept - dems have proposed this prior - but I think McCain scored some points.
For McCain to win -- it needed to be a game changer. It wasn't a game changer.
1Another tie...but Obama I felt edged out this format, where I thought McCain was a bit stronger in the last one.
And McCain buying everyone's homes??? WTF! That response confused me and my family. Too vague and the thought of the government screwing that up scares me...
2Yeah, I agree. McCain scored points with socialism.
3McCain wants to buy up bad mortgages? Yeah, WTF is right. Haven't enough of our tax dollars gone out the window? Nail. Coffin.
4I actually found the two of them on stage together really awkward, the way they would sort of "dance" around each other. McCain was supposed to hit a home run tonight in order to come out ahead, and I don't feel he did. I'm an Obama supporter, but I truly believe Obama won this debate. He connected with the people, clearly answered questions, and did so without coming across as a condescending jerk (ex McCain calling Obama "That One"). That was pretty ridiculous and speaks of McCain's character
5I think the thought of buying up bad mortgages was a win for McCain -- I think the idea is SCARY -- but some people will respond to it.
6I think McCain needed a game changer, and this certainly wasn't it. I feel like Obama won it, but I was far from undecided going in. I am sure there will be polls out soon enough.
I think that some people who might not have "connected" with Obama before, might feel closer to him because of the health care situation he described with his mother.
I also think that McCain's wondering around the stage made him seem more anxious. He was pacing!
7Well Iraq has that surplus, so maybe they should buy up the homes.
8Je deteste McCain, therefore I am obviously biased. None of these guys were superstars, clearly, tonight. They were a bit stiff and a bit wishy washy and rambly but i found i could sit through Obama's answers without groaning as much or yelling at the tv. At this time i would say Obama won and it looks like he will do so in the elections but then again i though bush would never win again. Oh and that "that one" comment will haunt McCain.
9dreamsugar, I noticed on MSN, they said the Republicans took a nose dive on the buy up of housing mortgages idea, which I thought was interesting. Dems and Independents were moderately interested.
10I am hearing a lot of "the one" comments.
I missed it live!!
11Does anyone know around which question it came in response to?
Look at Mccain's hands, yuck!
12Dream...I'm a homeowner...the thought of McCain and his campaign managers who were ex Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac lobbyists coming up with that brilliant plan scares the living c**p out of me!!!!
13That's interesting -but they don't really like government so it's no surprise.
14oh jillness they just played it on CNN.
15Ok -- again -- I just think McCain got points for the comment -- BUT I don't like the idea -- so let's just make that clear.
16Adrenalynn75, Mccain was referring to helping those unfortunate people who have ARMs. He's not talking about buying out responsible citizen's loans. Obama was strong on health care as usual.
17carville-ism on CNN!
18it's still Obama!
19love the numbers!!!!! it coes down to basically do you care more about Osama Bin Laden or whether you'll be able to pay your mortgage off, and put food on the table
20I just didn't get how McCain could propose to buy up these mortgages, and then criticize Obama for his proposed spending plan. Okay, McCain, you are going to cut taxes for everyone...and then fund your home-buying how exactly? Right...
Early on, I decided to drink every time McCain said "my friends," and I am thoroughly wasted now. Who knew he was going to say it so much!? Dear Senator McCain-- we are NOT FRIENDS.
I didn't like this debate very much, I didn't think either side did particularly well.
Did you know that McCain's tax credit for insurance would be $2500 for a single person? If McCain becomes president, I am getting married and popping out babies so I can collect all these tax credits. And $7000 per child! Too bad I decided to go back to school and don't pay taxes anymore! I wonder how he thinks students will buy insurance...hmmm...
21I didn't hear specifics on his mortgage buyout plan, but so far it sounds ridiculous. Throwing out a new idea like that without giving us the whole picture scares me. Espicially since I live in his backyard AZ and saw what his deregulation policies have done in my community.
22WOW someone had the guts to say that Barack won;t win cos he's black, YES SIR!!! I truly agree there are too many people who would rather not have a black man lead the nation.
23Adrenalynn- I totally agree! But what I did like: it's the ONLY specific policy that either of the candidates directly addressed tonight. I was hoping Obama would go even further to explain his health care plan, but maybe it's just too complicated.
24If you missed the "that one" comment like I did..here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed-k1xOCsMs
25Nya- don't you love how it's always phrased, "our country isn't ready for a black/woman president." Um, no actually the rest of us are ready for it, YOU are the one that has a problem with it!
26By "you" I meant the guy saying it, not you you!
27GO-BAMA. he schooled mccain. my favorite moment was when he pointed out that mccain has been "in washington" for 26 years and hasn't done a damn thing to fix things. i'm relieved.
28He didn't say any specifics about the mortgage buyout plan. It was sort of a nonsequitur just tossed out.
29I thought the interaction after the debate was interesting. There are hard feelings there.
30Obama's health care plan is VERY complex.
Here is a link from his site to a more detailed version:
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf
There is a general over view on his website as well. You find that by clicking on "Issues", then "Healthcare".
31LOl snowbunny, I know. McCain needs to retire and go live in one of his 7 houses and let the real maverick get on with it and palin, well Palin just needs to sit down, and fix her own family problems.
32His plan on buying out the mortgages sounded like another pandering plea to me, in the hopes of reassuring the American people on his actions on helping the economy. No thanks. Keep your Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac campaign advisors away from my home!
33I thought Obama did well during the debate, he really connected with the audience and moved around the stage well. McCain on the other hand lumbered about the stage and did not look well. I have never be a stickler for McCain's age, but the man didn't appear healthy. My mom is convinced he has a tumor in his cheek because there really looks like a mass in his cheek...McCain also was really defensive and a bit angry. Also on NBC after the debates, a reporter went through facts that both candidates used and McCain got more wrong and Obama's was only the extent of the Iraq Surplus which is still a whole lot! I am giving the win to Obama!
34I missed it!! Stupid work meeting
Hopefully I can catch it again tonight (and fast forward through any boring bits
)
35Thanks for the handshake diss link! Oh, the drama!
36total liberal Obama lover...
but McCain is freakin' creepy..just finished it (on TiVo) and MCain always sounds like he is whispering...WTF is up with that? Not to mention that this "town hall" was supposed to be good for McCain, well, i don't know that walking around, or should i say limping around, for McCain is good...one heartbeat away from Palin...and BTW I am NOT your friend..creepy old man
okay but seriously heeby jeebies from this hunchback old man, worse than Bush...well okay maybe not, but damn close. total creepy uncle vibe!
37From what I saw, I was expecting McCain to be a lot more relaxed or more at ease, since he had been harping for months on end about doing town halls with Obama. Personally I don't really think the format did him any favors.
38Obama said a few powerful things. one of the biggest for me was on health care when Barack said health care is a RIGHT and McCain said health care is a RESPONSIBILITY.
Oh and of course when he brought up bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran. He's never going to live that down.
Jill - I heard the repeated reference to Obama as "that one." Just rude and condescending.
39I don't remember the question and I just missed Chris Matthews talking about the "that one" comment.
40oh and as far as who won...Obama, obviously. He once again sounded much more articulate and is a much better debater. he has the best policies and plans for the future and when he spoke about health care he really shined...
41"total liberal Obama lover..."
No need to preface it that way. We all feel the same way.
42I missed the "that one" comment but just saw it on youtube. Wow! Even more smug than I imagined. That was a gaffe for sure. I can only imagine his campaign manager tearing his hair out.
43Rachel Maddow just pointed out that McCain didn't say "middle class"...again.
44hmm...gotta say, I was trying to keep an open mind during the 'debate'. It was pretty tiresome and tedious at points. I would have much preferred that the candidates would have been given more free rein so to speak. However, there were some moments of contention for sure... the 'that one' comment raised the hairs on the back of my hair just as quickly as it rolled off McCain's tongue.
45hmm...lol. I meant hair on the back of my neck. that would be odd if my hairs were growing hairs
46I don't understand why McCain kept saying "I'll get Osama bin Laden, I know how do it. I can do it" Why the hell wouldn't he tell Patraeus how to get bin Laden if he's so confident his plan would work?
Since McCain's the one who really wanted the town hall format, I expected him to do better. He was short on substance - said the way to fix Social Security was to reach across the table and talk and come up with a plan and for Medicare you set up a commission like the base closing panels. And the 'that one' and the 'not you' when Brokaw asked about his treasury secretary - he just comes off as mean.
So no surprise, I think Obama won handily.
47"Since McCain's the one who really wanted the town hall format, I expected him to do better."
Agreed.
I thought he was vague, as usual. Certain answers just sounded like strings of random talking-point phrases that didn't quite add up. He didn't hit a home run connecting with the audience, surprisingly given that this is his preferred format. And I swore at one point that if I heard him say "my friends" or "reach across the aisle" one more time, I would just chug the rest of this bottle of whiskey and have done with it.
(I didn't. I wanted to be lucid to share thoughts with you guys!)
However, as is probably obvious I'm pretty far on Obama's side. I have to admit, though, that I thought he didn't do well on the last question--the "what don't you know and how will you learn it" one. But other than that, calm, composed, dignified, detailed, and Presidential as usual.
48Jude: He did inject some humanity, just as Biden did, speaking about his mom dying of cancer and arguing with the health care companies over the phone while in the hospital. I'm sure he gained major points with those who are leaning towards him now due to the debate. Have you seen the post debate poll numbers? Vastly difference in figures.
49INDIE AGAIN!
Yeah, that was a great moment.
I think that this format is something the McCain camp kept demanding, thinking that it would throw him off his game, but so far nothing they've thrown at him has ruffled him. That's a quality I'd call Presidential.
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