Dear E. Jean,
I’m married to a man who works 14 hours a day. When he finally gets home he doesn’t talk to me, doesn’t ask how our 7-year-old son is, he only grunts, gets a bottle of water out of the fridge, sits down in front of his computer and does more work. He hasn’t thrown a baseball with our son once! When he’s home he’s either in front of his computer in his den or watching golf on TV. He’s so closed off and self-involved that when I suggest we actually play nine holes of golf together, he says his back hurts. He pays more attention to our Labrador than to me and his son.
We don’t eat dinner together (he usually eats with “important” clients), we don’t sleep together (he sleeps in the den), we haven’t gone to a movie or a restaurant in a year, and have not had sex in three years.
On the other hand, he’s a great provider and my life is rather pleasant. I have closets full of clothes, a new car, a personal trainer, and my son is going to the best country day school in the county. But my husband does not talk to me. Every day I try to be cheerful, upbeat, try to suggest fun “dates,” interest him in the neighborhood gossip, but nothing. I cook great meals, invite people over — he leaves our guests and goes and sits at his computer!
I knew my husband was a loner when I married him, I also knew our sex life was not the hottest thing going — but what do I do with no sex and no social life? Recently I met a very nice man at the dog groomer’s and we’ve been meeting for coffee. I love our deep conversation — I’m starting to feel human again! He makes me feel appreciated and like I have something to contribute to the world. I’m writing because a couple of days ago he kissed me and my world exploded. I’ve never wanted anything or anybody like I want this man. But I also don’t want to divorce my husband. What do I do? Nobody’s even listened to me in years, let alone kissed me! — Feeling Like New
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Feeling, My Poor Flamtag,
Nine out of 10 people on DearSugar will disagree with me, but here’s my advice: Have an affair. It will give joy to your life, pleasure to your body, and spirit to your mind. You must, of course, inform your husband first, by walking into his den, turning off his computer and saying: “Darling, I’ve noticed we’ve not slept together since 2005. I’d like a good boffing. Are you up for it?”
When he replies that his “back hurts,” or gibbers some other excuse, smile and say: “I’m sorry to hear that, sweetheart. I hope you feel better. But I can’t be expected to go the rest of my life without one of the greatest pleasures known to womankind.”
When he grunts and asks what that is, reply: “Well, darling, I’m going to put on my prettiest dress, run away to meet the handsomest man, and when I arrive, I’m going to grab him and suck . . . down every word that comes out of his mouth. I’m going to hold . . . a conversation. We’ll exchange ideas, learn more about the world, and perhaps even laugh. Afterwards, of course, I’ll probably hump the daylights out of him.” And with that, leave the room, call your friend, and make a date.
This is not a threat. This is your life. You must create it!
Many DearSugars will advise you to end your marriage and then have the affair — and, indeed, this is an excellent suggestion. You will get more money in a divorce if you stay inside your prison. But I’m going to pay you the compliment of actually believing you possess the mental strength and moral vigor to rebel against a conventional code, stay married, tell your husband you’re going to have an affair, and then make your own happiness by taking what you want. Because if you are not free to love whom you love — what is your worth as a human being?
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I'm actually shocked to find that I agree with E. Jean. Normally, I'm against cheating no matter what the circumstances... but if you're going to stand up and tell the man what your plans are... I'm not sure I can find fault with that.
1Same here mondaymoos! I've NEVER been an advocate of cheating- I think it's one of the worst things one person can do to another- but somehow this makes absolute sense to me!!
2If he doesn't want that to happen and values you and your marrige, maybe he will stand up and do all the things to you that you have been wanting for so long. Otherwise, it's not like you didn't tell him what your intentions are with this other man.
3For once, I agree with E. Jean.
4Can't agree more with E. Jean. :]
5Oh yes, just have an affair because you are too stupid to take care of yourself on your own. Good call!
6i disagree. it is never right to have an affair or cheat on your significant other because you are unhappy.
you married this man knowing what you were getting yourself into because he could provide for you financially. why would you do that if you knew you were unhappy and the sex life was lacking? and you still want to have your cake and eat it too, because you want to stay in this life you have at home and have a man on the side. its just so wrong. you made a commitment to your husband no matter what is going on. how can you stay at home in a loveless, sexless, and mute marriage. you aren't even thinking about your son or how he feels. you are living with a stranger and you are allowing it because he pays for things. what kind of example is that for your son?
if you're unhappy you need to talk to him. tell him whats going on and demand some answers. suggest therapy, sex, even a conversation. if this doesn't work then separate and you both go do your own thing. but be honest about it.
7Go for it. What man can go for 3 years without sex? He probably has someone on the side too. Have your fun but be careful. You're obviously starved for attention and reaching out to the first man that looked your way.
8I agree with talking to your husband and suggesting an open relationship. I dont agree with how E.Jean suggested the conversation should go because I think that would put him on the defensive and you dont want to upset your husband, you want him to understand and agree.
Right now you are doing whats best for your son and whats before for your future but not whats best for you. You need to get laid and since your husband isnt a very good option, maybe this other man is. As long as you talk to your husband about having an open relationship (it's not an affair if it's okayed by your hubby) and he is alright with it then there's no reason to even consider a divorce.
Sit your husband down, tell him you would like more sex in your life, listen to what, if anything, he has to say and then suggest an open relationship. But realize, if you get to sleep with another man... he gets to sleep with other women. Think about all of the situations and as long as you're both agreeing.... Go on wit ya bad self!
9actually, I agree with E. Jean on this one, though I believe deeply in marriage vows - your husband doesn't sound like much of a husband, other than being a provider (which is great in itself). But I'd also suggest counseling first, before you dive head deep into something with this guy (and you're on the verge) - talk to your husband, explain how you've felt all this time, give him a chance to see the severity of the situation and offer to enter counseling with him to save your marriage. (I'm doubtful though, because to me it sounds like you "settled" even when you first married him, which is highly irresponsible on your part - you should have known this would happen.) Otherwise, as Jean says, if no other avenues are open, and once he's heard how severe everything is, inform him and go for it. But I'm going to wager that you want the easy way out - enjoying the nice things he provides for you and a little something on the side. The fairest and most respectful thing you can do for him is talk to him, bring him into the loop, give him some options, and lay your cards on the table. If he agrees to let you play around in the marriage (some couples do this), then you're good to go, but be mindful of your child. If he wants a divorce, then talk that over. But you owe him some serious communication here...
10i just wanted to add something...
he probably is seeing someone on the side. he doesn't want to go through the mess of a divorce or he really just isn't interested in you.
you really are throwing yourself at the first man that pays you any attention because you aren't getting it at home but i still don't think its right for you to just go and have an affair.
if you want to do your own thing you need to get out of the marriage.
11funny.....if it would of been just a question...and just us sugar peeps to answer....i bet 99.9% of would of said...LEAVE HIM...but since E. Jean says stay....can we say....baahhh...
12It sounds like this woman's husband is having an affair of his own.
13I agree with MissJules... the OP seems more interested in maintaining her affluent lifestyle than saving her marriage.
...And this post reminds me of "The Nannie Diaries".
14I would divorce him. Oh wait... I did already
15We lived together for a year because we couldn't afford to maintain separate households yet. He had his room/life and I had mine; equally agreeing to see other people if the opportunity came up. It was simple because we had been like roommates for the entire marriage anyway. I call our kids, times 1-3.
It just happens to otherwise great people. I've yet to find love, he's already remarried.
Women get stuck and afraid to do anything. But I agree. Tell me with or without you. If he's uncompromising either way... unlock the handcuffs and go for it...but keep in mind you may find nothing but sex.
*tell him...
16Um, take it from someone with personal experience with affairs (as in I was cheated on, and for NO good reason)...affairs are NOT the answer. I understand what she is saying, but, just divorce the guy. he is an absent father and husband. All he is doing is providing money. Why sink to the level of an affair? Just divorce him already!
17too funny. we all agree with EJEAN just because she rocks our worlds!
18man. that's really profound. great advice!!
19You should tell him that unless things change you want a divorce. You should think about your child, both of my parents had affairs and I was forced to live in an unhappy house for most of my childhood and teen years. I didn't have any respect for them and they pretty much let me do whatever I wanted; out of guilt I guess. I think it has quite a long lasting effect on children, you should think about whats best for your son, children are often much smarter than adults think.
20Why are you drinking bottled water?! That's very wasteful. You should buy a Brita. Actually, buy two--one for you and one for him so you don't have to fight over it in the divorce.
21I would agree with E. Jean if it weren't for one thing: YOU HAVE A CHILD.
I am no child psychologist, but I do know: (a) children are not as dumb as you think, and (b) when your child realizes you have been having an affair, IT WILL AFFECT HIM NEGATIVELY. I am not saying that an unhappy marriage is any better for him, but it will certainly be worse for him to see how you have chosen to deal (unproductively) with the unhappy circumstance of finding yourself in an unhappy marriage. It sends all sorts of signals to him, not the least of which is that it is okay to disregard marriage vows/it is okay to stay in a marriage for the pure fringe-benefits (being bought new cars, new clothes...)/etc. I am curious why you would choose to create such an environment for your child; you expressed concern over your husband not making the effort to help raise your child in a positive, loving environment - why would you contribute to the potential psychological harm your son might incur due to his home-life?
I am very sorry you have found yourself in a loveless marriage, that is not something I would wish on anybody. But when you become a parent, you take on the responsibilities of that role, and (at least while the child is young) you must put the needs of your child before your own. You need to use your situation to set a positive example for your son, so that he does not grow up thinking that loveless marriages are the norm, and people can do whatever they want to "deal with it".
22as far as i'm concerend E.Jeans advice on this one sucks......and alot of the previous comments agree with her? why? alot of the posters are strong willed woman who are very opiniated (sp?), who know how a man should treat them...i read their post in other quesions alot...why may i ask are you agreeing now?
23like i said before....like a bunch of sheep...i don't understand...
Don't have an affair. If you're not happy with your husband, either convince him to change or divorce him.
24I agree Jessie! Horrible advice.
25michelle & colombian sugars...CHECK! You're absolutely right.
26My family and friends treated me like I was crazy to isolate myself and not 'get right out there' and 'find somebody'. But it was hard enough to divorce so they wouldn't live in a loveless marriage because it's theirs too. And I sure didn't want to ruin it with a constant stream of oops!!...he's not your stepfather, how about this one?!... we joke around about 'types' using celebrities. But NO uncles. I worry my daughter would follow a bad example and my sons would lose respect for me and women. It's tricky when you have children and are trying to go about it for their sakes when you are depressed and uber!suffering. But it must be done.
Though shocked I must say Jean does have a point. I can understand why you hesitate to have a divorce, it is a big step and many unhappy couples hesitate to do it mostly out of lack of courage of being on their own or cos they think especially if they have kids, that staying together will be best for the kids. Have your affair, and somewhere along the line you'll find something else besides sex ( for now ) in a man that will make you want to divorce and spend the rest of your life with another man, and why not remarry.If your hubby stays indifferent then hire a private detective to see if he is cheating on you. If telling him before having your affair makes him jealous, then he'll change his attitude.
27Oh E. Jean- you ROCK!
28i'm really shocked that everyone here is condoning cheating. i don't say that she's in a good situation and its just easy as that to get a divorce because i know its not. but what kind of example is this for her son? that its okay to have an absent father that lives with him. and that mommy is unhappy but married him and stays with him for money and sees other people on the side. since when has an affair or cheating for any reason become okay? its not.
she married him for money. not love. she put up with it thus far and now that her son is 7 so she's been married and putting up with this for quite some time but she's going to start questioning her marriage only because she met someone else? its ridiculous.
she knew what she was getting into and shes clearly not being any type of a role model for her son.
if she is unhappy she needs to leave her husband not cheat. and if money is so important to her she needs to get a job and ask for alimony and child support that way she is free to do what she wants but she's still getting the only thing this man is providing for her.
i'm completely disgusted right now by what the majority of you people are saying. including E. Jean, and i'm disgusted by this woman who settled for loneliness and unhappiness and is hurting her son just because she wants to be taken care of financially. its ridiculous.
29This is a tough situation. Basically, you are staying with him because of your son, and his money. You knew how much he worked when you married him.. but if he won't make time for you at all, maybe he is also losing interest? Maybe he would be up for an open relationship? All you can really do is talk to him, really.
30Divorce him before you cheat. Why would you stay... just to keep your lifestyle? If so, that is not respectable... and neither is cheating.
31It must be REALLY hard to figure out how to pay for a personal trainer on your own!
32She basically has a roommate at home, and the only thing she can come up with is an affair? Grow up, honey! You said nothing about trying to talk to him, you just said that he doesn't talk to you. What? you don't have a mouth? Please stop playing the victim here. He might not be interacting with your son, but you're the one not actively thinking about him either. He has the obligation to be supported by his father whether you're together or not.
33if you haven't had sex in 3 years, you can bet your ass he visits massage parlors or has a lady on the side
34I guarantee you this woman has said nothing to this man, because he provides her with materialistic things, even she says “on the other hand he is a great provider and my life is rather pleasant” So does it suck? Or is it pleasant? I am confused. No sex in three years, he sleeps on the couch, but he makes a lot of money, AND she knew this going in. I say have all the affairs you want, because you are no better than him meeting some dude and kissing him.
I would ask this woman: Do you work? Besides gossiping with neighbors and shopping? Why don’t you throw a baseball with your son, or give your husband a backrub if he is in pain? Why don’t you initiate sex, even if it means going out to the couch and starting with a foot rub? Are you staying with him for that personal trainer or for love? You knew how he was before you married him, so why the surprise now? Of course you don’t want a divorce, you might have to actually work for the things you want.
35...one thing to add. Do not be so quick to assume she married him for his money. He may have acquired that money after they met/married. And when you are married it's OUR money for OUR household. And in no way is alimony/child support comparable to a substantial single or two income budget especially if you have primary or in her case, surely sole custody. This man clearly doesn't want to be married, he wants to be 'kept' in other ways that she is being accused of being financially 'kept'. It's a shame how women are made to feel like martyrs and carry the burden of everyone's happiness.
36On another note, in case your son is not enough reason to give you pause to think before you cheat, make sure you have the legal ramifications of your actions clear.
If you have a prenup, make sure that cheating will not disqualify you from receiving whatever settlement you agreed upon.
If you don't have a prenup, be aware that cheating may affect your divorce settlement, should you or your husband file for divorce in the future.
Just more food for thought.
37Mesayme. i agree with you to a point... but this woman said she knew what things owuld be like when she married him which leads me and i'm sure most people here to believe that she married him for his money or else why would she have married him? she knew he was a loner. worked a lot. and payed little to no attention to her yet she still married him anyway. why else would she have married him if he worked alot didn't talk to her and had no money? come onnnn!!!!
the only reason she doesn't want to leave him because he's a great "provider" which means financially because clearly it is in no way emotionally.
she doesn't want to leave him because the money will be less and she won't be as comfortable financially as she is now. she may even have to get a job now, and sacrifice her personal trainer GOD FORBID!!! this woman is living the life of luxury at a cost of her and her son's emotional well being.
i understand where you are coming from and saying that sometimes women will be forced to feel like they need to "keep the family together" and carry the burden of keeping everyone happy but in this case she only cares about money and her own happiness. it really doesn't apply to her. she is no martyr. she went into everything knowing full well how it would be and she sacrificed a happy life for her and her son so they could be taken care of financially. she is only questioning it now that someone else has walked into the picture. shes concerned about keeping up the affluent lifestyle she has and having someone on the side to fill that emotional void. she clearly doesn't care about her son or her husband.
38I just can't believe all the assumptions people make towards this woman. She's tried to initiate Many things, outings and time together and he hasn't been present in their relationship for a long time. I think it goes to show how catty women are, giving her crap about Oh how horrible not to afford a personal trainer, or oh great stay in a relationship because you can't afford to take care of yourself. How do you know what she does? She might have been a lawyer that when she had a child decided to stay home. It's like, give me a break, she's at a loss of what to do and instead of being understanding and trying to give helpful advice people make rude remarks that they know nothing about.
39and She Didn't say she knew what she was getting into! She said she knew he was a loner and their sex life wasn't great. No one could know that would turn into completely being ignored for years on end.. My boyfriend is something of a loner too but he takes time to pay attention to me.
40MissJules5x I could not have summed it up better than you. I agree. Feeling like new- you said yourself you knew what you were getting into when you married him. He was not mr lover lover then, and you said you want to stay married to him because of all the stupid material possessions you get. You have your priorities out of whack. I know you probably would not tell your husband and try to cheat behind his back. Do NOT do that. Be honest with him like E. Jean said. Let him know if he is not willing to change you are going to find someone else who will care for you, and tell him he can choose to stay married to you and do the same or divorce you. If you try to have your cake and eat it too, trust me your whole world will come crashing down on you and you will most likely lose everything about your life that you find so dear. It is not worth it.
41LOL good advice javsmav.
42Why don't you just divorce the guy and get on with your life? Sounds like you and your son would be better off.
No comment on the whole affair scenario. If you really wanted to hump this dude you would have already done it.
43Well E Jean does it again. I can believe that she would give this advice but I can't believe that so many of you agree. Since I reallythink these weekly posts are more for E Jean to read and laugh at our responses than for actual advice to the OP I won't go into why this advice is ludicrous. I just wonder how marriage got reduced to sex. If you're married you aren't just in it for the sex it should be a partnership. Everyone is giving this woman a pass to do something horrible because she is unhappy. Well marriage is a two way street. If she stopped worrying about how unahppy she is she might have time to see how unhappy her husband or child might be.Nobody is asking women to be martyrs or to only conosider everyone else's happiness and not their own. I think in a healthy marriage you can put your partners needs before yours because you can trust that they will do the same. If you don't have that strong bond then it will never work. If she wanted a sugar daddy she should have rejected his proposal and countered with an offer to cook clean and saty in shape for him while he paid all her bills. I believe that's taught in gold digging 101. Honestly people like this make the rest of us look bad. No wonder men think women are vipers only after their money.
44i think she should not cheat,as of last sunday i caught my husband car parked at a motel.Naturally, i am still wounded. cheating is not the answer why lower your standards,ask god for guidance!
45i read all the comments some were helpful to me because my feelings is totally hurt!
46Basically, the OP admits she knew what she was getting into. Now that she's miserable in the life she chose, she should absolutely take control of her own happiness, divorce the dude, get a job so she can personally afford whatever comforts she enjoys, and otherwise move on.
E Jean, I think that your advice often comes in opposition to impulse control. If the OP is going to empower herself and make herself happy, she shouldn't do it through an affair. Doubtful that it'll make her happy in the long run. I think she should tell her husband that she's about ready to move on, and either they get intensive therapy or she's gone.
Seriously, it sounds like her husband can't stand her either. He sounds miserable. Maybe he feels obligated to stick in the marriage because they have a son together. So maybe initiating a divorce will be the best thing that ever happened to both of them.
47How can you assume that she doesn't care about her son? Based off of what I read she must, otherwise he wouldn't be in the best country day school in the area (I'm assuming that her husband had no input on that)! Her husband on the otherhand, obviously she doesn't care, look at what her "relationship" has endured for at least 3 years!
I'm normally against cheating, but in this case go for it if discussing it with your "husband" is unsuccessful. Sure it won't look good in the courts, but hock your closet on ebay, trade down your car, and gain a few pounds (all no big deal). And I promise you, your child's education is what you make of it, public or private.
It is your life and YOU need to be happy and do what is best for your son - Don't let people judge you just based off of what they read here. There is more to every story than what words can speak.
48Do not cheat, either leave or live with your life the way it is.
If you do cheat (telling him about it or not) it will affect your outcome of a divorce.
49She did say she knew what she was getting into and all she gets out of it now is her "lifestyle." It sounds like she doesn't have the kahones to learn how to take care of herself and make herself happy, instead she is trying to justify having an affair because after THREE years she still can't sit down with the man and have a conversation about it! Pathetic!!
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