"Only" the 13th richest, eh? Does that include his wife's money?

I would assume, just based on the fact that Sen. Kerry is #1 and I would imagine that is based on his wife's money mostly.

that confused the hell out of me

Who's rankings are these?
I got McCain wrong and Elizabeth Dole is starting to morph into Bob!

So, I just looked at the original article (on rollcall.com) and it says McCain is worth $19.64 million, but Cindy has been estimated to be worth over $100 million on her own, which would put them up by the Rockefellers.

I don't know why they're running away from that. Didn't Cindy's father build the company from the ground up? They're the American dream!

This is a little misleading because John McCain wasn't ranked at all on the conservative/liberal scale. He is obviously one of the 50 most conservative senators!

i dont know if he's your typical conservative... didnt he break from GOP a lot before he threw all of his values out the window to get the nomination? just sayin'

Oh, I definitely don't think he's the "typical" conservative, but I doubt there are any Democrats who are more conservative than him and neither are Lieberman and Sanders, so I would say he's in the top 50.

50 most conservative and liberal would be...well wouldn't it basically be almost a party list? I've only seen top ten liberals or conservative lists.

Threw his values out the window? Come on.

I wouldn't say he threw his values out the window (well, I wouldn't say it in public) but he does seem to have shifted his view on a lot of issues.

The ear hair on that dude frightens me. he doesnt see it? or doesnt care? or does it keep him warm?

These lists are interesting, but I wonder about how they computed some of them. The link only lists longest serving Senators up to #14. The first list is combined House and Senate time. And some of the people on the Senate list are not current Senators.

Maybe I am just in a complaining/overly analytical mood today.

Yeah this seems like something I would take with a grain of salt, even if you look at the Top 50 richest its just based on what each legislator discloses which may or may not include marital assets.
Interesting point about McCain and is he a 'typical' conservative or not. I would say that being considered a typical conservative nowadays is pretty different than 10 or 20 years ago.

I don't know why it doesn't say where these lists come from, but I assume the richest list is the one on rollcall.com, and the first sentence of the article is "Everything that you are about to read might be wrong."

I guess assets worth over $1 million are listed just as that. So, a house worth less than a million would be listed as, like, "House-$890,000" but a multi-million dollar home would be listed as "House - over $1 million" whether it's worth $1.5 million or $15 million. I think. It's confusing.

That's a wisp of hair behind his ear.

So why is Liberal a bad word???

Who said that it is?

Who said someone said it is?

Well, dream didn't just pull that question out of thin air. If no one had said or implied that it was, there would have been no need for the question.

I think they both 'liberal' and 'conservative' can have negative connotations depending on who you ask. I personally wouldn't like either words applied to me.

So people aren't allowed to pose questions anymore? Interesting.

I don't think anyone has said or implied that people aren't allowed to ask questions any more.

By the way, what you're doing here is entirely obvious.

I got so confused on that quiz. I felt like I was back taking the SATs.

I always got tricked by the all of the above/none of the above/a combination of the above answers.

Yeah, True Song! It brought back some pretty awful memories of test taking for me too.

It made me feel more stupider....

I figured after the first half that I was doing good, since I picked the combo answers on pretty much all of them. And then I bombed from there.

And I really dislike the "all of the above, none of the above, some of the above" answers on multiple choice tests. It always made me feel like the professors were deliberately trying to confuse me and make me get the question wrong.

I had a teacher who always did "pick the one out of order" and I couldn't wrap my brain around it.

I had a chemistry teacher that frequently put "don't know don't care" on his multiple choice tests.

And by the way...I don't think Chemistry should EVER be multiple choice!

i especially didn't like that STD test i took where the only choices were "combo of the above" or "all of the above"!!

Actually I was asking. Seem that all I hear lately is "liberal media" or "liberal" this and that used in a negative (almost scare tactic way). So I was just wondering when did the word "liberal" become a bad term?

Well, I think it would be bad if they were called the "conservative media" too, because the media is supposed to be more or less neutral. That said, I think a conservative might use it in a negative way because it goes against their beliefs. But I've heard conservative used in a negative manner for a long time.

robert byrd literally looks like a bird. horrifying.

also, he looks like a turtle. your thoughts, everyone?

YY, I think he's a mock turtle.

I was thinking along the lines of a hobbit?

10/10 - why does that scare me. I love these pictures.

It's funny -- but I never hear conservative used in a negative way. I was with a buddy of mine from work and he was asking me which way do I "go" -- I of course said "as left as they come liberal" -- all I heard after that was a groan and a "oh" -- seems like there a more negative connotations on "liberal" than on conservative.

Torg, I just realized your TS. Thankfully, you kept the apple.

I know, it's confusing. I kept the same av on purpose!

For a minute, I thought someone jacked your apple.

You thought I was the victim of an apple jack?

That I did, I was going to fight in honor of your name.

I guess we might be from different places, but I always hear 'conservative' used to mean uptight, or close-minded. If your friend groaned when you said you were liberal, it was probably because he doesn't like liberal ideas, and not because the word has negative connotations in general.

I put my name on my av, I'll leave it like that a week or so.

hahah... thats really funny, TS

Well, you were asking because someone said it, just not someone on this thread.

And I agree, liberal has become a dirty word, just like conservative.

To me the scariest term of all is 'religious right'. Sends chills down my spine. Hey actually that would make a great halloween costume if I could work out the details