It was a night of embarrassing political-TV riches: Sarah Palin's much anticipated interview with Charlie Gibson and the McCain/Obama Service Forum at Columbia University. Oh, where to start? Let's say ladies first (can we say that?) Sarah Palin's interview is being sliced and diced everywhere, from your comments, to comparing her environmental statements then and now, to giving her an overall thumbs up for looking, "resolute, confident, and in command of the subject matter."
Though Gibson was hand-selected to be the first to have a crack at grilling Palin, he didn't hold back in variety of subject. From the Bush Doctrine to invading Russia, it was all covered. When Gibson asked Palin if she hesitated over her level of experience when McCain asked her aboard the Straight Talk Express, Palin said:
I didn’t hesitate, no. . .I answered him yes, because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can’t blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we’re on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can’t blink. So I didn’t blink then even when asked to run as his running mate.
If you missed the first batch, tonight's 20/20 has an hour-long special starting at 10 p.m.
And what were the candidates up to? A back-to-back forum on public service at Columbia University. How did it go? I'll tell you both sides, but let's just say I changed my email "status" message to "John McCain gives good forum." To see the scoop, read more.
Sitting down, much in the fashion of the Saddleback Forum last month, the two candidates answered questions on service in front of a 1,000 member audience that included students, celebrities, relatives of 9/11 victims and Joe Biden.
John McCain used the opportunity to lament how different the campaign could have been if he and Obama were traveling together, doing a series of town halls. After frank talk about his relationship with service and the draft, McCain said:
Volunteer organizations that are completely separate from the government — have nothing to do with the government — are amongst the most successful. So let's not get entrapped by the idea that the government has to run these voluntary organizations.
Obama came through with specifics saying:
I believe firmly that government should expand the avenues of opportunity. I want to create an energy corps, a clean energy corps that can mobilize individual citizens to help create greater energy efficiency in our country. I want to mobilize seniors to get involved with their schools or local hospitals and health clinics. There's going to be a whole range of ways to do it. Some of it is going to cost money, but mostly it requires government providing these opportunities and avenues.
Did you catch either TV event? What did you think?









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1Yes, Mykie, lucky if we would survive it.
She clearly doesn't know enough about pressing world matters to be VP. She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine even was, and she couldn't handle any type of issue like international security with out squishing them into how they related to Alaska. A VP needs to be able to take issues, and do the opposite...think of how policy will impact the WORLD. The leaders of the United States have to deal with global consequences.
What if it had been Vladamir Putin that asked her about the Bush Doctrine? How strong would our country have looked having a leader that was clearly so puzzled about international policy?
2Erm...well if McCain is elected, then he gets to be "in office" first, right?
3how was it embarassing?
4I thought Obama was Outstanding! McCain was great. It was definitely a topic that needs to be addressed and it gave us a break for the silly season of politics that we endured this past week.
And my thoughts on Palin were definitely addressed last night on the other thread. I guess I had really low expectations for her last night and they were certainly met. I don't think she has the foreign policy knowledge a person at that position needs to have. But she was'nt completely horrible.
5em - no prevailing wisdom is that mccain will die moments after being sworn in.
as for this interview, i thought it was ok, but i was disappointed that he chose to interrupt her to ask about her "hubris".... i'm sorry but did anyone ask the Jr. Senator from Illinois about HIS hubris when he decided to run for PRESIDENT? Did I miss that?
6I am really scared now! The fact that Palin spoke of a possible war with Russia is absolutely terrifying!!
McCain was not very articulate on CNN. I did appreciate his praising community leaders and trying not to sound like an elitist.
Barack was on point as usual.
7I hate when people call out politicians on silly stuff when there's lots of real stuff to be upset about. The "task from God" think is taken out of context. The full quote was, "“Pray for our military. He [Palin's son] is going to be deployed in September to Iraq – pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right for this country – that our leaders, our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what he have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan and that it is God’s plan.”
That is, pray that we are on a task from God, pray that there is a plan and we are doing God's plan.
Even I as a left-wing nutbag atheist have no issue with that.
I have huge issues with her suggesting war with Russia is a possibility, with trying to turn every foreign policy question into an energy question, with thinking not taking a second to blink is a good thing, and that she gave almost the exact same word for word answer three times, "We cannot second guess Israel's right to defend itself."
8again, its in the eye of the beholder/supporter.
9> i'm sorry but did anyone ask the Jr. Senator from Illinois about HIS hubris when he decided to run for PRESIDENT? Did I miss that?
Um, yes. Tons of people questioned him running for president with less experience (like, say, Hillary Clinton), but then we voted and decided to make him the nominee anyways. I guarantee you you could find lots of people even specifically using the word hubris.
10Thank you Carrie...that's what I'm most scared of. Aren't we in enough trouble?
11Obama's running mate stated that Obama was not qualified and that the presidency doesn't lend itself to on the job training. Bill Clinton said "when's the last time we elected a President based on one year of service in the US Senate before he started running." Because of an 18 month campaign, Obama is suddenly qualified to be President. Biden's getting a potential promotion so I can understand his flip flopping. Bill Clinton is taking one for his party so that's understood too. But the fact remains that Obama's experience is not all that different than Palin's. He's just had 18 months to brush up on his talking points. For a first timer, I thought she did pretty well.
I was so glad that McCain called out the 'elite' universities for banning the ROTC. I was suprised that Obama said that he supported the idea of bringing the ROTC back to those campuses. Doubt he would have said that during the primaries.
12I can't wait for the interview tonight. torgleson--where's the apple?
13i've always felt that Palin was very well spoken and she really responded in a way to reinforce my opinion. she's able to stand by her comments, not back track and really make us feel like she's a force to be reckoned with. i didn't get a chance to see the interview but i'm definitely going to see what i can find online to hear the whole thing.
14torg - love new avvy!
but i was thinking in interviews specifically, not debates
15Fine, I think it's been established that we have 2 less than experienced candidates running, but frankly, I think 4 more years of the same old sh*t is not what this country needs.
16well i don't think ANYONE wants to start another war, so to assume she is a war monger would not be rational. but i think its important that the option is always on the table if all else fails and i'm thinking thats probably what she meant.
17girlA - no we have 1 less than experienced candidate running... VP is not the same as President.
18Well, maybe it shouldn't be an option. Not for us. Not now. How much is another war going to cost us? In $$ and lives? We have to start thinking about getting our butts out of the existing wars and getting our economy back on track. The mere fact that she does consider it a possibility is scary.
19Honestly, I wish both sides would drop the experience thing. It doesn't work for either side anymore. What is still a pertinent issue is knowledge, which may or may not be tied to experience. I think Obama knows a lot, I think McCain and Biden know a bit more, and Palin knows very little regarding issues of foreign policy.
What's an even more pertinent issue is, well, the issues! How should we improve education? What can be done about the economy? What regulations should be in place to protect the environment? What's the best way to make sure everyone has access to health care?
I'm not voting for Obama and Biden because Palin thinks God sent us to Iraq, but because I agree with them on those issues and disagree with McCain and (I presume) Palin on them
20We have a potential presidential candidate should something happen to McCain. They're both candidates and they're both running to office in the white house.
21AP:
Show me where I have ever said that there's absolute proof that nothing that man has ever conducted or engaged in has had any effect or no effect on climate change. I have not said that," Palin told ABC News in an interview broadcast Thursday and Friday.
However, in the past Palin has said she does not believe global warming is caused by human activity. She has told the Internet news site Newsmax, "A changing environment will affect Alaska more than any other state, because of our location. ... I'm not one, though, who would attribute it to being man-made."
In an interview with a Fairbanks newspaper within the last year, Palin said: "I'm not an Al Gore, doom-and-gloom environmentalist blaming the changes in our climate on human activity." ABC cited the interview as being at odds with her statement.
She can't even stand by her own comments! It would be different if she said that she changed her mind, or was responding to a proposal...but she is asserting that she never took positions that she DID in fact take.
22torgleson - let's not forget the whole "Obama is presumptuous" meme.
23You're right torg. It's about knowledge rather than experience at this point. There is a difference.
24The new av is to express my frustration at people who will not stop talking about experience! Grr!
25torg - i agree with you, the experience really is a null point now (i dont really like that because i thought it was the best argument against obama all along) but i'm just really annoyed at those who think VP and President are the same position. They are not.
girlA - Obama said he would not take the military option off the table when dealing with Pakistan, does that scare you as well?
26"VP is not the same as President."
Are you kidding?
Even Regan was shot at! Not to mention, insurance stats show that a man McCain's age has a 30% chance of dying in the next 8 years.
27Sure, hausfrau. It all scares me. It matters when it is just war. Considering Iraq, Iran, and Pakistan, I'm not so sure we need to be using fighting words with Russia just yet.
28Clarification: when it's a JUST(ified) war.
29So you mean he has a 70% chance of living through 2 terms? If there was a 70% chance of rain, would you take an umbrella?
30>but i was thinking in interviews specifically, not debates
I don't know. I would guess some time over the last year and a half someone asked him that to his face, but I think either way he's addressed it and now it's up to us to decide if it's important and voice that with our vote.
>we have 1 less than experienced candidate running... VP is not the same as President.
You make it sound like being VP is like being Grand Marshall in a parade. Don't you want the understudy to know all the lines?
31I would, but I think you mean to say a 70% chance of not raining...?
32VP has a hell of a lot of power and influence. Knowledge counts. (Taking a cue form torg, I'm not using the e-word anymore).
33Though I actually always have an umbrella in the trunk. And if the rain is a huge international catastrophe and the umbrella is someone who could effectively deal with it, then yeah, I'd bring it even if everything looked sunny.
34Obama said he could “pay for every dime” of his spending and tax cut proposals “by closing corporate loopholes and tax havens.” That’s wrong – his proposed tax increases on upper-income individuals are key components of paying for his program, as well. And his plan, like McCain’s, would leave the U.S. facing big budget deficits, according to independent experts.
Obama said "average family income" went down $2,000 under Bush, which isn't correct.
who isnt standing by thier comments?
It goes both ways. remember that.
35i think raining enforces a better image! like you know, its raining mccain!
haha
i'm such a geek
boy we sure could use threaded comments right about now...
36I understand that VP is an important position, but I just don't think its as important as President. And lets not forget the loads of advisors these people are surrounded by...
37I think people forget we've had eight presidents die in office! Fourteen U. S. Vice Presidents became President. Five were elected in their own right; four inherited the office through the natural death of the incumbent, four by assassination, and one by resignation.
That's nine of our forty-three presidents who were VPs who had to step in.
38I don't think either candidate can promise or even accomplish the perfect plan to get us out of debt and help families bounce back. It's going to take a LONG time to recover from the last 8 years. It's a matter of choosing the candidate with the best long term solution. It's not going to happen overnight and I think Obama is being realistic.
39thats only 4.8%!
40so there is a 95% chance that everything will be fine
41I was just thinking that. Every time I post a comment, when the page reloads it shows six new comments from when I was typing!
http://teamsugar.com/user/torgleson/blog/1914356
Call for threaded comments! Threaded comments won't start a war with Russia!
42"It's about knowledge rather than experience at this point."
I agree with this so much.
IMO, the greatest impact on international relations is history. In order to understand the best way forward, you know to know SPECIFICALLY how we got to where we are. The details explain grudges, alliances between different factions, past greivances, etc.
In a different vein, her comment about Russia invaded Georgia with "no provocation" is so unaccurate it is terrifying. Georgia sent troops to S.O. first, in order to take back the disputed territories. If you do not understand the basic facts regarding how a conflict started, how can you make sound decisions about how to proceed???
43Um, nine out of forty-three? That's 21%.
44You know what sends shivers down my spine? President Biden
Can you imagine the State of the Unions??? They would take days!!!
45He did not say that we would to war with them haus. Palin may not be backtracking on what she has said, but she is not telling the truth either. I agree we need to drop the experience argument on both sides!!
46Damn my math skills! This is why I didn't major in accounting...
47Did Palin say we would absolutely go to war with russia?
48So true Jill..even Gibson was taken aback by her answer.
49so if you take the 70% chance that he's not gonna die... and add that to the 80% chance of him living out his term... thats a 150% chance that Palin will not be President... right??
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