The MSNBC coverage was so entertaining. You never knew what they were going to say to one another. I'm going to miss all the rabid bias in the debate coverage. And by rabid I mean the spittle that shoots from Keith's mouth when the Republicans have the upper hand about something. This is disappointing in my opinion. MSNBC encourages this type of behavior so why are they being punished for what they were hired to do?

I never noticed any bias?

MSNBC really is the Lohan family of the news networks.

I don't mind all the preconditions set on the Palin interview, as long as they aren't trying to prevent certain questions from being asked or topics from being brought up. I look forward to seeing the interview.

Man I'm sooo glad the McCain campaign found ONE member of that SUPER ELITE media to ask Palin questions. Hopefully he sticks to mooseburgers and the rest of script because any hard hitting question about her experience and readiness to lead would be super SUPER SEXIST I say!

Other than talking about her family -- there should be no conditions. She should answer every single question.

Conditions?? Why should there be conditions? is that normal for polititians

ooops... politicians

Olbermann leans left, Joe Scarborough leans to the right, and Matthews goes where the wind blows. What they are missing is Russert to guide the ship and keep everyone in line.

Or a momma to smack them upside the head with a wooden spoon when they get out of line. (Which is every day, pretty much.)

They shouldn't ask her about her church or banning books or anything because that would be SO ELITIST and SEXIST. But maybe he could ask what she meant when she said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers" given that they are private companies? Wonder if she missed econ at one of her six colleges she attended.

I agree, lilblu. The absence of Russert alters the dynamic completely.

Tinkerbell, give it a rest, nobody is saying anything about sexism or elitism. You're arguing with yourself.

True Tinker, she (wrongly) thinks the gov't controls them and they are "too big and expensive" for taxpayers, yet McCain later said he thinks it was good that the govt took them over?

"But maybe he could ask what she meant when she said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers" given that they are private companies? Wonder if she missed econ at one of her six colleges she attended."

Yeah, I don't know if she missed the part about those companies being government sponsored enterprises, or the part about their financial protection by the federal government. Maybe she didn't learn that they are offered a line of credit through the U.S. treasury, protection from SEC oversight, or the exemption from both state and local taxes.

Good point, that maybe someday hopefully potentially sorta taxpayer guarantee was getting to be a HUGE drag on us all.

"Even conservative analysts acknowledged that the statement simply did not hold true.

"Heretofore, if the treasury had a balance sheet there would have been a liability but there was never a taxpayer payment before [the bailout]," said Gerald P. O'Driscoll, an economist with the Cato Institute. "[Fannie and Freddie] were not taxpayer funded. They had taxpayer guarantee, which is worth something, especially in the stock market..."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/08/palin-makes-her-first-gaf_n_124...

"McCain's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, speaking in Colorado Springs, Colo., said Fannie and Freddie had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." The companies, however, aren't taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization."
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/51940.html

"McCain's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, speaking in Colorado Springs, Colo., said Fannie and Freddie had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." The companies, however, aren't taxpayer funded but operate as private companies. The takeover may result in a taxpayer bailout during reorganization."
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/51940.html

They weren't taxpayer funded so how could they be too expensive for america?

if she was an expert on the economy she wouldn't have made any economic statements anywhere close to false. her statement would have been solid and it wasn't. there could be interpretations but her comment was flimsy and economists (even conservatives) were quick to point out the mistake...that tells me something.

Guess whose money gets invested in the line of credit by the U.S. treasury needed to keep the two afloat amid 4.5 billion dollars in "accounting errors."

I'm beginning to see why they don't want her to talk to reporters.

imo she didn't know what she was talking about and just got lucky that if you stretched her statement far enough you could find a morsel of truth in it.

well at least the media is calling her out on the 'bridge to nowhere' junk. both mccain and palin should take that statement out their stump speeches b/c its misleading. and i agree with the two others that said that losing tim russert threw NBC and MSNBC for a loop. since his passing i feel like the networks have really struggled to find their footing without him. he was the glue that held everything together. i especially missed him the past two weeks with the conventions and everything!

The latest Obama Ad has a photo of her with a T-shirt supporting the bridge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBtbG5xjFBY

I saw that ad dream. The campaign should do more videos like that. If McCain and Palin are lying call them on it.

Huh? They talked in so many damn circles I had to replay the damn thing.

Hey if I ever get an action figure it better come with accessories.

Thompson's wife was probably so embarrassed she got up and sat in the back and pretended to read the safety pamphlet.

Socialism is great, if you like socialism.

I just heard on Count Down that Palin did not fire the Govenor's chef. So I looked for confirmation.

"Remember the long-time executive chef who lost her job at the Mansion when Sarah decided to live mostly in Wasilla instead of Juneau? Stefani Marnon was first reassigned as a "constituent relations assistant" in the governor's office and later to the state museum.

Earwigs report she's finally landed where they really appreciate a good chef: the Legislative Lounge."
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/288561.html

Lil -- did you see the clip where she says Obama's message resonates well?? They totally need to use that. Oh and the "what does a VP do."

No dream I didn't see that clip. They should use it.

The main stream media is just bad - more concerned about ratings than the facts or calling out - just plain lies. It does not matter whether it is fox, nbc, abc, cbs. Most of it is just vanilla pandering. The only one I think is really good and it is fake news is Jon Stewart. At least they show the hypocricy of the candidates and the media and you get a laugh. Because the news today is anything but funny when you consider what is on the line with this presidential campaign.

Lil -- I posted it in my blog.

You may want to review your headline for the link about the Sarah Palin interview "with" preconditions? The article clearly states that there are no preconditions. Saying where it should happen is not a precondition, like saying what you can ask. It's extremely misleading. I thought this was a nonpartisan site.

Newbies gotta love them.
This is liberal blog site. There are us conservatives here, but we are extremely outnumbered, and always welcome new people, but this isn't a nonpartisan site.
Welcome to the Sugar network, none-the-less.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac absolutely do cost taxpayers a great deal of money and the inevitable happened today . . . the federal government took them into conservatorship, exposing us all to up to $5.4 trillion in liabilities. The market has been expecting this move for some time. Don't believe the $2 billion number being reported, or even the more ominous $200 billion number. The first number is the amount of taxpayer money pledged *today* to guarantee payment on liabilities and the second is the amount of money needed for only the next 18 to 20 months. Fannie and Freddie have upwards of $5.4 Trillian in liabilities that Uncle Sam just guaranteed with our money.

This is the context of Governor Palin's remark. This shouldn't be confusing and it shouldn't be a partisan point. I hope Senators Obama, Biden and McCain are equally displeased with this development and working on economic policies to put that risk back on the investor market.

Aww I'm sad, I love Olbermann! I always got the impression that he owned his bias. Genuinely, I don't think anyone minds a bit of bias as long as it's acknowledged. That's what kills me about Bill O'Reilly- he says he is fair and balanced, and many people, including my bf's mom, genuinely think that because he says he is fair and unbiased that he IS. And then she argues with me that because Bill O'Reilly says MSNBC is more liberal (and yes, much of it, especially Olbermann is) that it means that Fox News is moderate and unbiased. Um, nooo. Just because MSNBC is more liberal does NOT mean Fox is fair and balanced! Argh!

Just Oh- this freddie mac and fannie mae thing is tragic, but the thing is, if people hadn't assumed that they their loans were backed by the govt, these two companies wouldn't have been able to overextend themselves so horribly. So it's just such a huge mess. I think that either the govt. should have 100% controlled them (and then set limits), or not been involved at all (which would have lead people to be more cautious). In a sense they got the best of both worlds, which is made them crash even harder. Oh well, hindsight...ya know...

I find it amusing that Palin thinks some things are too expensve and too big. But the war is not big enough or expensive enough for these guys at a mere 10 bllion a month.
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

The klan boys at Fox wouldn't know "fair and balance" if it came and shove it's foot where the sun doesn't shine. They've been doing it from the get go, but Keith Oberman is the problem? He's one of the few people willing to tackle the McCain BS. Everybody else is busy asking him which side of his buttcheeks to kiss. All these networks are owned by the same good old boys who are profittering from the wars and the military industrial complex. Even if you had one brain cell sputtering in an empty skull, you'd know the corrupt corporate media wants McCain to win. He plan to be in Iraq indefinitely up 100 yrs if necessary. He's gonna keep those blood moneys flowing.

You know Palin's husband was a member of the Alaska independence Party who wants Alaska to be a separate country. Palin addressed them this year and told them to "keep up the good work." There's a clip of John Vogler spouting of his hatred of the American Government. I was just wondering how come the corporate media and "fair and balanced" Fox don't have those clips on 24/7 like they did Reverend Wright.?

Isn't it amazing that we have a vice presidential candidate with real ties to a secessionist group? That just shouldn't be.

Steph, I'll see your baseless innuendo and raise you a candidate for president who has ties to Tony Rezko, Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers.

Palins Faith on CNN
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2008/09/08/kaye.palin.and.her....

Palin has some ties that date back 20 years also -- if it's excusable for her.....

If the video doesn't show up it's called "Palin and her faith".

I don't think it matters if Palin personally gave her daughter an abortion while driving illegal immigrants to the welfare office in a Toyota. No republican is ever going to vote for Obama. And vice versa. I think if we all sort of agree, maybe it doesn't have to get all cranky.

And then we can go back to Hitler and whether he would have voted for Dewey or Truman in '48.

CNN turned up some interesting stuff about Palin's church. I watched that segment last night. Now both tickets have some spiritual sketchiness.

I think it's funny that anyone could say that Matthews is in the middle.

Ah, but we've already been told time and time again that church ties don't matter, so I guess things about Palin's church shouldn't even come in to play.

And I don't see anything wrong with Palin saying Obama's message resonates well. Is it not OK for her to compliment the other candidate? She's criticized for criticizing him and criticized for complimenting him. This woman can't catch a break!

Good one, lilkimbo!

I like it when the candidates are nice to each other. It's better than seeing them talk poop and spread lies.