Tran Trong Duyet could just be the unlikeliest John McCain supporter you could hope to meet. Though he's now a retiree who likes ballroom dancing, 40 years ago Duyet was in charge of the prison where McCain was held as a POW for over five years. Speaking now, the 75-year-old says, "McCain is my friend. If I was American, I would vote for him."

Seen in the center of this picture after having ejected from his aircraft into a lake in Hanoi, Vietnam, McCain was taken to Hoa Lo prison, less than affectionately known by fellow inmates as the "Hanoi Hilton." The treatment McCain received while being held drove him to try to commit suicide. Duyet, his captor says now, "I don't know how he'd react if he met me again." And he tells a decidedly different story of McCain's time there: "I can confirm to you that we never tortured him. We never tortured any prisoners."
Duyet tells the tale of the man in prison, now seeking the White House:
We used to argue about the war — about whether it was right or wrong. He is a very frank man — very conservative, and very loyal to his country and the American ideal. He had a very interesting accent and sometimes he taught me words in English and corrected my accent. I have followed his career since he left prison.
While Duyet's recollection of human treatment all those years ago is impossible to corroborate in a country with wildly tight controls of the media, his support of now seems genuine. "I wish him success in the presidential election. . . I consider John McCain my friend because he did much to mend relations between our two countries. And if he becomes president he will do more to improve those ties."









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This whole post is bizarre... He says "He's my friend"??? WTF?
1I was thinking the same thing!
2how did they find him? he came forward to make this announcement? what?
3I'm totally confused...what? Where did they find him? He considers him his "friend"? He holds there was no torture? Weird...
4Many POWs have gone back to Vietnam over the years and met their captors. I think McCain went back for the first time in the 80s with CBS, he's taken his wife and son to the Hanoi Hilton. Some have said that meeting the men who held them and talking to them now as fellow soldiers helps to process the experience and move on with their lives.
Like it or not, a Vietnamese soldier acting as captor to American prisoners and treating them badly is no greater evil than an American soldier acting as captor to prisoners from other countries treating them badly. Both are doing their job.
5I'm a little skeptical of this man's story that they never tortured anyone. Call me jaded, but this chicken soup for the soul is hard to believe. But, if former POW's can meet their captors and come to terms, way to go. that's truly amazing and wonderful.
6"Like it or not, a Vietnamese soldier acting as captor to American prisoners and treating them badly is no greater evil than an American soldier acting as captor to prisoners from other countries treating them badly. Both are doing their job"
Very true stephley
7John McCain was a hottie.
8WTH? This is crazy!
9Kris, we say we don't torture either - once peace is declared, not many people come out and reminisce in polite company about deliberately harming others.
10Stephley, I'm always surprised at the things you say about American soldiers. I think very few people would hold sleep deprivation and cold A/C in the same category as severe physical beatings.
I doubt McCain would accept the endorsement. He's said before that he will continue to hate those who tortured him until the day he dies. But, he has done significant work to mend relations between Vietnam and the US.
11Stephley, I agree with your assertion. I didn't mean to sound as if I was challenging it with my comment.
12Sorry for the misunderstanding Kris, and thanks.
Jennifer, there are Justice Dept memos talking about abuses that go way beyond air conditioning issues, along with the new memo from Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba on Abu Ghraib - I don't have to make anything up or stretch the truth. If you're surprised, you're not paying attention.
13Jen when will you wake up and realize that our soldiers, sailors, and Marines do NOTHING but run down the street with machetes, violently ripping EVERY SINGLE PERSON from their homes and then holding them for DECADES torturing them daily???
I really hope my sarcasm came through on that one.
14it did cabaker. I got it.
15Cab was that really necessary? Would I be wrong to consider that a personal attack? Because my inclination is to think yes, that's very personal in light of the fact that I sited a report by a U.S. Major General who used the term war crimes in front of a Congressional panel. Or is the Major General also a traitor?
FYI, I have interviewed American pows from Vietnam for work and dealt with some in private life. Also grew up with a man held by the Japanese in World War II. They are surprisingly matter of fact about what each side does.
16Cabaker, I don't think anyone is trying to say that our men and women in the military are doing anything like that.
How can you guys deny that torture has taken place when we KNOW that our captives have been waterboarded? That there were prisoners who died at Abu Ghraib that we didn't admit were dead until a soldier took a picture of their corpse?
Not all soliders tortured people, of
course. But you can't deny that some of that has taken place at the hands of the US.
I think it is very weird that this man claims to be John McCain's friend, and yet he is denying that he was tortured. That just seems very twisted to me.
17Steph, only conservatives can have personal experiences with the military. Don't step on team red's turf!
18No steph it wasn't a personal attack. I'm just worn down by the CONSTANT and unyielding negative attitude towards our armed forces.
It's everywhere, every day and honestly, I'm really sick of it.
I just find it very interesting that everything bad that comes out about the military is 100% true all the time but everything good that comes out about the situation in Iraq is 100% false all the time. To me, that shows a great deal of politics and not a great deal of rational thought.
19In either case, i doubt McCain would welcome this guy's endorsement. Yeah, i'm sure he did "talk" to McCain (and by talking, i mean beating and torturing the guy). This is just a weird post.
20I'm not saying torture doesn't happen but I personally don't think that sleep deprivation and very hot or very cold temperature is torture.
Also there have been many people on the blue team who've said in regards to tortue, "all this torture" or "all the people" or "happens all the time" which is a conscious effort to make it seem like torture is all that we do.
21Sigh...i feel like this is going to become one of those threads where we go in circles trying to clarify earlier comments with further (much longer) comments. And then we'll all get frustrated with each other and then go off topic and return to liking each other again.
22I feel that the Abu Ghraib story cast an unfair, negative light on our soldiers. what happened there was truly horrible, creepy, and awful. I couldn't believe the photos of the smiling soldiers doing the things they were doing. To me, that was just psychopathic. I know there have been other soldiers and groups of soldiers accused of doing horrible things. But there are many, many (cabaker help me with a number here!) soldiers who serve honorably and while "doing their jobs" as Stephley noted, may do something cruel or hurtful to the enemy. Or they may not. Or, they may take liberties and go far beyond their orders. We don't really know, aside from eyewitness accounts. Soldiers do things as part of their job duties that they may come home and never speak of to anyone. I think it is the nature of war. That doesn't make torture or abuse acceptable, by any means. but it exists.
I just think we have to remember that the abuses we hear of don't apply to the entire armed services as a whole. we hear so much about the bad things, and few news reports that are positive. (as positive as you can be when talking about war).
23Stephley - I think most reasonable people will concede that some very bad things have been done by some US soldiers. Many of them have been held accountable, and that is nothing less than what should happen.
Where I continue to disagree with you is your insistence on equating US soldiers in general with groups - like the Vietnamese captors - who used severe torture on a very broad scale, regularly, consistently, on large groups of people for very long periods of time.
The last time you and I discussed torture and US soldiers, I believe your exact statement was that while we may have only used sleep deprivation and cold A/C on Chinese prisoners at Gitmo, if the Russians have someone they want to talk to "we'll crank it up a little". You continue to insinuate that American soldiers will and do torture whenever they get a chance. And, like I said before, it continues to surprise me whenever you throw that out there.
24"Many POWs have gone back to Vietnam over the years and met their captors. I think McCain went back for the first time in the 80s with CBS, he's taken his wife and son to the Hanoi Hilton. Some have said that meeting the men who held them and talking to them now as fellow soldiers helps to process the experience and move on with their lives."
Interesting to know, stephley.
Also, I know the military is a touchy subject for a lot of people, but maybe I just don't see a lot of the negativity surrounding the armed forces...? I know a sh*tload of people in the armed forces (my cousin, the coolest guy ever, went to West Point and has been over to Iraq 3 times; I have 2 friends over there right now) and I just am not really aware of the negativity. Most people I know have nothing but respect for people in the military, and don't really only equate the armed forces with torture. Just sayin'.
25...and since this thread is getting long I'm apologizing in advance if I took anyone else's comments incorrectly!
26"I just think we have to remember that the abuses we hear of don't apply to the entire armed services as a whole."
I do not think that most of our soldiers torture people, by far. I do think that it has happened, and I think it is terrible when the soldiers are punished, and not the superiors that gave them the orders. I am mostly concerned with the contractors who interrogate.
27Ha! i was right!
28Nica's right, this is going to become one of 'those' threads. I'm out, it's not worth it.
29Yup, nica
30Okay, i'll stop being a doofus and contribute to the conversation.
I have to say i don't really see the contradictions here. I think Stephley may sound like she's generalizing but when i read it, i see it as implicit that she's not referring to all military personnel, just the few that have taken part in torturing prisoners.
In either case, i have nothing but respect for the military. I mean, how can you not give someone respect for going overseas and defending your country and dying/becoming injured for it? I used to work at a restaurant near Walter Reed and i saw soldiers come in ALL the time. It's heartbreaking to see 21 yr olds without arms or missing both legs and then drinking their sorrows away. I can't imagine the kind of sh*t they saw over there...
31Wow. Ok, my bad. Not sure exactly what I said that is not allowed here at CitizenSugar but I apologize.
32Stephley, come back!
33Stephley, don't leave!
First, I don't think Stephley's comments are meant as an across the board condemnation of American soldiers. She's just stating opinions about something she feels strongly about.
Second, some people here have spouses and siblings who are currently in Iraq or Afghanistan, or have recently returned. It's only natural that they would be sensitive to all of the negative talk about torture and abuses by American soldiers. Because when it is discussed, it often takes on a tone that includes every soldier in the condemnation. Know what I mean?
There's not enough time or words for that matter for everyone here to fully explain themselves, especially when they have jobs they should be doing instead.
Things can be easily misinterpreted.
34I'm just at my wits end when it comes to this stuff.
The progress in Iraq is either a) not reported or b) reported and then deemed false by the left
And when was the last time you heard a story about the military that was good?
Because honestly, unless I read military newspapers, I can't remember. Its been that long.
Thats not meant as an attack on Citizen or Liberty, but on the media as a whole and the general population. If we are all SO appreciative of our armed forces like we claim to me, then why don't we demand these stories get airtime? Why don't we demand follow up on stories like the Haditha 8, which everyone was quick to condemn those Marines, including prominent political figures, and now it turns out that 7 have had charges dismissed or were found not guilty and 1 still hasn't stood trial...
Have you seen that on the news? Cuz I haven't.
OK. Rant over.
35It's because of the media mantra: "No news is bad news, and good news is worse." In '97, a guy robbed a bank (Keep reading, I'm going somewhere with this...) in Indianapolis, and while trying to get away, climbed up a tree to evade capture. The police had actually lost him, until they brought in the infrared cameras and saw his body heat in the tree. When the guy realized he was surrounded he shot himself, live in TV. Two news stations in the area were capturing the extrication of the guy from the tree, and when you could actually see the guy who killed himself, one station cut away from the coverage. The station that cut away saw it's ratings drop by 3/4's for that time period, as everyone who was watching just flipped to the other station that was covering the situation.
36Yepppp... I'm just going to stick with
37Damn, Young McCain is a hottie. I love those flyboys...
"There was no firefight, there was no IED (improvised explosive device) that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood." - Comments by Representative Murtha
Nice guy, that one. Way to take up for the troops risking their lives in Iraq.
38MM that is a beautiful picture of you pretty girl!
39Awww... stop it... it's too early to inflate my ego.
40Does anyone remember the 6 soldiers who were accused of murdering Iraqi civilians? 5 of the 6 have been aquitted. Did we ever hear anything about that? Nope.
MM, that is a good picture.
41It's not just the media and civilians who put out a negative image of servicemembers. The sad part is, all too often, higher ups will sacrifice their little grunts to keep their careers in tact. That's why those soldiers were put on trial, UnDave. And even though they were aquitted, their careers are ruined.
42Cab- AMEN!
43I too am sick and tired of hearing constant badgering and negativity about our military from people and a particular side (I don't have to name). Its like no matter what our military does, they can't do it right.
Its the type of people that hate their own country that want to see us fail.
you know what i'm sick and tired of? people confusing our disgust at the misuse of our military with what you all believe to be some over-arching liberal disgust with the soldiers themselves.
NO ONE is trying to say all soldiers are torturers. these problems go much deeper than the men and women on the ground.
we have a president who is pulling the proverbial puppet strings, who abuses his executive privilege, and who is happy to refer to himself as "commander in chief" of the armed forces, yet we have still not heard him come out and say "The buck stops here - with me, I'm the president, and whatever happens on my watch is MY responsibility". so THAT's what im sick and tired of. please stop confusing things.
44"you know what i'm sick and tired of? people confusing our disgust at the misuse of our military with what you all believe to be some over-arching liberal disgust with the soldiers themselves."
Well-put, yesteryear. I don't have a bad opinion about the military (if I did, there's no way I could deal with my bf who comes from a military family, nor would I have dated two ex-Marines...) and again, maybe I just don't see the "disgust" as much as other people do. And I live in a large, "blue" city...so, yeah.
45I agree with you YY. One is not the other. I am against this war but would never say anything bad about those who are fighting it. I know Stephley feels the same way. In fact, I can't think of one person on this site who has written a dishonorable thing about our soldiers.
Also, let's try and remember we're in this thread together. Sink or swim, CS is all we have.
46What do you all mean was, MC is still a hottie.
47Did anyone see Rod Sterling walk across this page?
48Oh sorry that was your cigerette I smelled yesteryear.
49Yay team YY and raci! I'm tired of people saying I'm unpatriotic and that I don't "support our troops" just because I don't agree with the war. I have a lot of respect for the military and armed forces and it upsets me that they are being used to fight this war. Just because a few American soldiers have tortured prisoners doesn't mean that the thousands of others fighting are horrible human beings. I really don't think stephly was speaking in those generalized terms either, I think she was making a comparison and a valid one at that. Both groups were just doing their jobs.
This post is odd. The captor is obviously using his affiliation with McCain to get his fifteen minutes.
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