Dear E. Jean,
My wife displays no affection for me whatsoever! When we first met, it was like magic. I lived in a big city in an upscale neighborhood and had a thriving business. I was 37, never married, no kids. She was divorced with seven kids.
I knocked on her door while campaigning for a friend’s Senate position, and the rest is history. I was at the point in my life where I was tired of looking for my soul mate. My family thought I was nuts for marrying her. But it was something I always wanted — a lot of kids and a beautiful wife.
We married, I bought a ranch, and we moved.
Now, here comes the bombshell: She tells me that she was a prostitute to support her kids. She stopped just two weeks before our meeting. Her pimp (a prominent local businessman) is still calling the house after four years wanting to hook her up.
In the meantime, I’m catering to her every need, because I know she had a very difficult time in the past. I’m doing all the shopping, taking the kids to school, and basically running the house. I write her love notes, bring her flowers, chocolates, and give her massages. When we make love, she tells me she’s never felt that way before.
However, I’ve begun to notice she doesn’t and hasn’t done anything for me. No attention, no initiation, no love or affection. No cards. No love notes. I’ve tried to talk to her about it. She says that if one person (me) is initiating the love in the marriage, that’s all that’s needed.
I feel unwanted. I’m losing confidence in myself. I feel like a dog chained to a tree that doesn’t get any food or water. I love her but I feel as though I’m being badly used. Help! — Lost in Texas
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My Dear, Dear Texas,
You pierce my heart! My man, you deserve love notes from every woman in America! If I had your address. I would send you 33 pounds of chocolates, then fly to Texas to help you eat them. But as for your wife . . .
I’m guessing she can’t show affection to any man. I’m guessing she’s so hungry for love herself, so busy with the children, so exhausted, she can’t even see your needs. I’m guessing she spent so many years being paid to love gnarly, greasy, brutal, stupid, selfish men, spent so many years pretending to love their idiot sex fantasies — turning tricks to feed her children has got to be one of the toughest ways to earn money in the world — she doesn’t know how to handle the real deal from a spectacular guy like you.
Pardon me, I don’t want to add to your pain, but I think you will have to accept her as she is — flaws and all. You can’t make her be affectionate. Until she learns to love herself (and she will probably have to go to a therapist to get a new perspective on herself) she won’t be able to love you as you deserve.
Of course, you can do a hundred little things to nudge her along — you can ask her to tell you she loves you. You can ask her to give you a kiss. You can use humor — write a love letter to yourself, ask her to sign it, and then mail it to yourself (and when it arrives, rip it open, read it aloud, and praise her for her, ahem, “gorgeous writing style”). But in the end, it will always come down to one thing: You are too good for her.
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Dina Bar-El
Why does this story sound fake to me?
1I agree: you sound way too good for her. I think it is time for some couples counselling. She has to understand that you need some TLC and love as well. I have to admit, it seems like she is with you because of your money. She has 7 mouths to feed and cloth and she was obviously desperate to do so or she would not have been prostituting. I am really suspect of her saying that she stopped 2 weeks before meeting you. I think it was more like she stopped after she met you. I understand why you would feel used. You are a good man for taking on a woman with 7 children and such a shady job, there are very few men that would have done what you are doing. I can tell that you really love her, so I sincerely hope that she starts to think about your needs more. As for the pimp calling your house, get a private phone number, or seriously consider reporting him to the police as a stalker. You and your wife do not need or deserve to be harassed that way anymore. I hope you guys get counselling. Good luck to you.
2Fake.
3Wow, you sound like a dream! Definately, you sound way too good for her. I agree that you should get counseling, but if things don't change, you should leave her - sorry to sound so harsh, but life is too short to stay in a marriage like that.
4I disagree with the advice that you have to accept her as she is - that's a "just deal with it" attitude. If you're unhappy, it's not a healthy relationship. While it's important to acknowledge her background and the energy she spends taking care of all the kids (which you help out on), I don't think it's unreasonable to expect displays of affection in return. I would push for counseling because it's great to have an objective voice. And I agree with MartiniLush - you deserve to be happy!
5I HOPE this story is fake. Jeez!
6She definitely needs to go talk to someone, stat. If you did in deed settle so you could have your dream life, and you are not having it, then you need to think about your situation.
7Why are there persons on here who really dont care about others issues bothering to add their 2 cents? go read something else. i feel for that guy because i personally know someone in that position. i would say bail out but that would be out of place.
8I am sorry you are going threw this.
I know my bf loves me but he is not one to say it first to me. i ask him all the time to tell me he loves me. it satisfies me. i am thrilled when he says it first on his own.
i like what E Jean has to say. it sounds like you both love each other, ask her to tell you.
9Sugars, my dears!
This letter is 100% real. (The Ask E. Jean Column
receives so many letters every day, I can barely
READ them all....let alone sit around making letters up.)
This is an genuine e-mail from a man who
is going through tremendous difficulties. I shortened
it by about 600 words.
What else can I tell you?
10Oh, Ejean I didn't mean you faked it! The guy just sounds fake! Maybe it's just because he sounds too good to be true!
11for starters, does he have any brothers?
12Ok, i have been thinking about this (obviously having a slow day at work!) and why the hell is her former pimp still calling after FOUR YEARS? Are you so sure that she isn't still prostituting?
I've changed my mind: dump her now, call E.Jean to let her know you are free so she can send out the word, and I can guarentee that a slew of women will be lining up to meet someone as giving and caring as you!
13Shenanigans!
E.Jean - You can't tell us that you believe every letter that you receive is truthful 100%, can you?
It's too good to be true. Sounds like a FAKE to me.
14First of all, I just don't think any self-respected man will let other people walk over him like that... If he is as successful as he said he is, he wouldn't let his wife treat him like her other customer.
Don't let your "love" blinde you. What do you love about her anyway? If you can't make a list, then i say bye bye Jose...
15And Yes, you are being used.
She is emotionally crippled. You should send her to the shrink...or else you can continue live like this...
16Sugars, my darlings!
Isn't this intriguing?
Dear Sugar run hundreds (THOUSANDS) of emotionally
volatile letters from women who let guys walk all over them, mistreat
them, cheat on them, use them, bilk them out of money,
and cast them aside . . . and rarely do we wonder if
the women's letters are fake.
Now we have a man----he has a name, I know his
occupation----who is being tormented by a woman
who shows him no affection, and many very very very smart
Sugars are wondering if he faked his letter!!
It is fascinating, don't you think?
What is going on?
This discussion is almost more interesting than his letter!
17Taking over seven kids and a wife because you're tired of searching? That's just admitting defeat, but if you're so tired of looking that you settled, can you really blame her for acting the way she is? I know that's a sad way to look at things, but chances are, she's been allowed to act this way since the first time you met so what should prompt her to be nicer and more loving now?
18Oh E.Jean ... you are my hero(ine) *swoon*
19EJean - I think the reason people are doubting the validity of his plight is most of us have a hard time believing that a man..anywhere, ever would for one marry a woman with 7 kids (who probably aren't even from the same father given her "profession"), find out that she was a prostitute and then complain she doesn't show him love?? It just seems like nobody would put themselves through something like that, but if you say it is genuine, I for one will take your word for it
As for him, Dear God, I think you need to respect yourself and your worth, and leave. It sounds harsh, but this woman doesn't seem trust-worthy in the least and for all you know, she probably is STILL turning tricks. There are LOTS of women out there who do not come with as much emotional baggage and real baggage for that matter..and most of them would be over the moon to find a man as wonderful as yourself. EJean is right on the money on one thing - you are too good for her. I think this relationship is beyond couples couselling or anything like that. He needs to tell himself he is deserves more then that and CAN get more then a woman who has been around the block 1000X.
20Ahhh EJean you are so right!
Anyay, if it were a woman who married a guy with seven kids who used to be a pimp and is now walking all over her, my feminist indignation would be at an all-time high! I guess it is hard to believe that a guy would put up with this, but we never really do question that a woman would. Either way...you've done everything to earn her respect and love, now you need to demand it or get out! My advice would be the same for a man or a woman, but I probably wouldn't have declared a woman's email "fake."
The being said, my guy is amazing, he rescues bunnies for christ's sake. But I am still shocked to find there are other guys just as amazing as him out there. I shouldn't be though!
21IF his letter is real, why are we even assuming that this women married him for love? If her pimp is still calling the house, it sounds to me like she's been running a game on him since day one. Coincidentally stopped prostituting 2 weeks before this knight in shinning armor knocked on her door? I don't think so. I hope he gets checked for STDs.
I doubt that it is a real letter though, because I've been schooled in the art of spotting fakes through regular reading of Savage Love, by Dan Savage. Too many extra details, and this guy paints himself as such a good guy - a little too good. Doesn't mind the fact that she has 7 kids? Completely accepting of the fact that she hid her former occupation of PROSTITUTE from him until after they married. Her pimp still calls the house, after 4 years of the husband catering to her every need? I call shenanigans, I don't care if someone did "verify" this guy and his occupation.
22I think a lot of people are overlooking something very important in this article: namely that he LOVES her. It's not easy to pack up and leave just because she doesn't write him love notes. He married her and her emotional baggage... and he should at least try to work things out. If easing her in to showing her affection and therapy doesn't help, then splitting up may be the answer. But it makes no sense at all to not even try.
23If a woman wrote this letter I would also think it was a fake. It's a little over-the-top doncha think?
ufshutterbabe - Dan Savage also taught me the same thing.
24Ditto bluebellknoll and ufshutterbabe. Thank god for Dan Savage.
Total fake. This guy was 37, rich, wanted children and was single/never married? She had 7 children and was still a beautiful prostitute? Also... living in an upscale neighbourhood in a big city, has anyone SEEN the cost of living lately? Has anyone SEEN what a prostitute with a pimp makes these days? Trust me, it's not enough to raise 7 kids in a nice neighbourhood in a big city.
I call bullsh!t. Shame TeamSugar for believing this crap. Yea, I get the whole "if this was a woman you wouldnt doubt it!" but that's crap.
If this letter was from a 37yr old woman who was rich and single, you can BET that she wouldnt date a loser who took her for granted, was an ex pimp and had 7 kids. Maybe a 25yr old woman who was poor, single and lonely... I can believe that then maybe.
25Look after yourself and get rid of this woman and her brood. This woman and her children have "liability" written all over it.
26This letter is so fake and if it isn't then this guy needs therapy as much as his "wife". What person male or female would put themselves in this position in the first place? If this woman never showed any signs of love prior to marriage what's the shock now, and by your own account you married her because it fulfilled some sort of desire in your life , not because you loved her. Sounds to me like you are both being used.
27I am awe-struck, my darlings!
The brainpower on Dear Sugar is of the highest quality;
and yet one or two of our most charming Sugars
lack the experience with life to even IMAGINE that a man
can fall so deeply in
love he can't see straight . . .
Come, come Sugars!
28Open your minds!
Admit that a man can be so needy, so without love, he falls
for a woman----who HE describes as beautiful---(it may
not in fact be the reality; but HE thinks she is) and can make
sad sad mistakes.
P.S. His letter did not say the woman lived in an upscale
neighborhood, it said that he did.
Ladies, ladies, ladies — come on now! You can't really think E. Jean made this up! I know she has a great imagination, but not even she could make this up!! The truth of the matter is this: some people's lives actually are that complicated, and just like me and you, they need advice from an unbiased person — our lovely E. Jean. So ladies, instead of accusing her of making up the question, gave this guy some sympathy, he clearly needs it!
29EJean, I agree w/ you.... that's why someone needs to slap him back to reality (excuse my language here)...
This guy may exaggerate it a lil in his letter, but i know some guys are like that, so deep "in love" totally lose themselves... I wouldn't want to be w/ a guy like that...
30I would like to add ,in response to E Jean:
If this was a woman I would say the same thing. I don't think it's fake because it comes from a man, and I don't think you made this up. I'm sure someone wrote this e-mail and your advice is truly what you believe to be the best for his situation.
I think however, that this man ,if he exists, has the lowest self esteem possible, and that you didn't really address that in your response. You said that he should get his wife help, but the truth is that he needs counseling as well because he chose this woman.
There were clear signs that she was probably not a stable prospect for a relationship and he even admits that he was at a point where he was tired of looking for his soul mate. He didn't get into this because he wanted this woman or her children in particular he did it because it was something he had always wanted, a dream to fulfill.
He was and is using her to make that happen and just because he treats her well doesn't mean he is any more in the right. Would any of us want to be loved that way? Don't we all dream of being with a person who not only lives with us despite our oddities , but who in some way can't live without us or at least doesn't want to?
I know that people write in and ask these questions because they want advice as to what to do about the horrible people in their lives who are making life unbearable for them. I just think every once and a while it's nice to be honest and let a person know that they do have the power to change things in their own lives and that, in all honesty, a lot of the situations they find themselves in are because they were not being 100% genuine to begin with.
31although i love E.Jean's response, i think it's inappropriate to say that he's to good for her... His wife has obvious emotional issues, but i applaud her for doing what it takes to support her kids... This guy sounds like "the perfect husband", but i'm sure he has flaws as well...
32You were so desperate in your serch that you settled for the first woman who showed interest in you, but she's not the right woman for you. She can't handle giving you the love you need, you shouldn't be taking on all her personal responsibilities. You can do better.
33Thank you all for responding to my email. I have made the decision to end this relationship and move on with my life. I currently live in another state and visit with my son every other weekend when possible. He is the joy of my life! If I can say this about what I have read (posts) regarding my situation…
I did not make a hasty decision about starting this relationship given the facts I was presented. I do understand people make mistakes in their lives as I have made many myself. If we were not forgiven of the shortcomings in our lives this world would be a horrible place to live. I chose to believe in her and her kids based on the many, many neat things/signs that were telling me to move forward in this relationship.
Her undesirable friend only called for the first nine months of the relationship if I can clarify that. It did feel like a knife piercing my heart every time he called though and the non-love from her left me to bleed death over the next three years. I know what you are thinking but I couldn’t abandon her and the kids given the circumstances. Also, I wasn’t “tired” of searching for my soul-mate and had concluded that if it happens it will happen when I least expect it so I stopped seeking the “one”. Then she came into my life and I am grateful for the son I have now.
It is Father’s Day weekend and I will see my son tomorrow. We live 7 hours apart now and I can’t wait to see him! If I could change what happened to me I would but that would mean giving up my son. I would loose everything again if I had too just to have him in my life.
I know there is woman out there for me somewhere that can reciprocate at some level all the love I have to give. I am still the same person as I was before. I believe if you love someone you show them by the big and little things you do for them that makes their life wonderful and the best that they can be. T-
34My dear man!
I am so glad to see you came to talk to us
and greet the Sugars! We have been boiling
all day about you . . . very concerned!
To some of us you were coming across as
too good to be true. I am happy to hear
how well you are doing. (And I am also
happy to see you are looking so well, so handsome,
and so ready for the NEXT big thing in life!)
Ravishing Regards,
E. Jean
[P.S. Yes, ladies, this is the man who wrote the
35letter. How do I know? He disclosed in his letter
to me he had a son with his wife. I had edited
that part out along with about 600 words of
more details. The man above mentions his son.]
Ok, wait a second here. I don't think anyone accused EJean of making this up - thats a serious journalistic infraction and I would never accuse a professional of that without solid evidence. I believe we were all questioning whether the letter writer was fabricating his story.
Secondly, I know letters must be edited for length, but the fact that you left out mention of his son disturbs me. Again, assuming the letter is real - that's a serious concern. This column online isn't like a Dear Abby letter printed in the paper - am I wrong in thinking these letters are presented for everyone to weigh in on, not just to be entertained by EJean's response? How can we form accurate opinions when major facts are omitted, or misrepresented? EJean, why did you edit the letter to say "Still calling the house after 4 years" when the writer is now saying that was "only for the first 9 months" ?
And I'm left questioning how long of a lag there is here between the letter submission and publication - if this man has moved to another state already, seems like he doesn't need much help or advice.
Knowing what I do now about how these letters are presented, I will definitely view this feature in a much more skeptical, detached way in the future.
36I think I can clarify this for you. I suspected that he had been calling recently and other times in the past because she would go outside to talk to someone on the phone. When I would ask her if everything was ok she would fumble on her words so I conveyed in my email that it was for four years but I only had actual proof of it in the first nine months. I have recently moved to another state for work. Hope this helps. T-
37Wow. Well, you certainly do not deserve the treatment you've received and I do believe men like you exist out there. I have my own. I guess many women find disbelief in your words because the chance of meeting someone as generous and devoted as you are to this pathetic person is rare. To be honest, I think you must have been pretty blind and desperate to enter a relationship with a woman who's history you've only discovered after marrying her. Obviously no one wants to hear that about themselves but I feel that is what happened in your situation. Well, you already know the answer to your problem. Leave her and find someone who will truly love you and is generous with her love.
38Haha, when I said it sounded fake to me I wasn't even thinking that E.Jean had 'made the story up' - it just sounded too bizarre to be true, and maybe someone had wrote in trying to yank everyone's chains.
39Wow! I'd be on the phone to my lawyer, hoping the whole thing could be annulled based on the fact that she failed to mention her hooking ways to you prior to saying "I do." Yuck! I do not commend any woman who supports her children by spreading her legs. If you have so many kids that a real job does nothing to support them, you should/ should've think about birth control and abortion. Now there will be these 7 kids thinking it's perfectly reasonable to have too many kids to support, then open their legs to get the money to feed them...
40E. Jean, I respect you 100%. I never thought for the life of me that ANYONE would question you or the authenticity of your articles. I think it shows a lot when Movingon signed up and voiced himself. There are a lot of skeptics here (myself included).
Movingon's situation happens to a LOT of guys. I knew a few that had been trampled on by their supposed love. It's sad, and it gives good women like me a bad rap. Kudos to YOU Movingon for doing just that. You totally deserve better, and believe me, there are awesome women out there that KNOW how to treat a man right. Like myself, but I'm married haha. You are definitely handsome, I hope the next girl feels lucky.
E. Jean...you ARE a goddess! Keep on doin' what you've been doing. There are going to be skeptics and haters EVERYWHERE.
41Ah -I'm so happy Movingon came and responded to us, and now we know he really exists and is not just a figment of our imaginations! *LOL*
42You are a very handsome man by the way, you should have absoloutely no trouble finding a decent woman at any age that will love you for everything you are. I applaud your courage to get out of that toxic relationship..you took the first steps toward the rest of your life and that could not have been easy. You are now free to heal and to move on... I wish you and your son the very best and hope you find true happiness..tho I have no doubt that you will!
MovingOn - I truly feel for you and your unfortunate situation. I wish you all the best, and I'm sure you will find a wonderful woman worthy of your love before you even know it!
43I'm glad we all ogt a response, but I have to admit I'm still alittle troubled. I'm glad that you have a son and that in some way this turned put well for you. My mother and father were together and had 3 children before they split up and now if you ask my mom she will tell you that she never should have been with him in the first place. I don't think there is anything wrong with admitting you made a mistake and moving on, but part of the response seems to be back tracking on things that were clearly printed in the original post. I think anyone can learn and grow form their mistakes, I just hope you are willing to not only look at how you were wronged by the other person but also how you may have wronged yourself as well. No relationship goes bad because of just one person. In even the worst cases their are things that both parties could have done differently to avoid conflict and make the situation better. Ihope you feel better about yourself now and feel you are worth being with someone who can truly appreciate you and won't be there just to take advantage of you.
44Uh... I still call bullsh!t.
Just because some "guy" joins TeamSugar 18 hours ago and claims "It is I who had these problems and everything is fine. I've moved away and I am happy. No messy divorce, I still get to see my son lalalala everything is wonderful!" doesnt mean TeamSugar didnt do it to save face.
Does this not SCREAM "deus ex machina" to anyone else on this site?
I'm with ufshutterbabe on this one. I have my doubts and I'll be taking the E.Jean things much less seriously from this point on.
45fallen85, i have a question...what stops any of the other stories on dear sugar from being true or being made up? i have read other threads and no one is calling bs on all of the other ones, for all you know, those could be "Fake".
46I'm right there with you Fallen85 and ufshutterbabe.
47And I also agree with ufshutterbabe regarding the person who submitted the letter is the culprit...I didn't think that EJean actually WROTE the letter.
As bluebellknoll and ufshutterbabe said I do not think on any level that E.Jean wrote it herself! Of course not! But I think some loser sent it in and it was just too juicy of a letter to ignore. I think EJean got taken in by the letter because it was just so opposite of the usual "women being used by men" posts.
zombielove, I suggest reading Savage Love by Dan Savage which was referred to by ufshutterbabe and bluebellknoll. I suggest reading this one where he goes over why he thinks certain posts are fake: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=401837
For all we know, every post on this site could be completely 100% made up by a team of sugars but I doubt it. There are some posts that are completely believable because we've been through those problems ourself or we can relate to them so they seem more likely.
Then there are posts about an alleged majorly christian girls who gets knocked up by her exboyfriend who just happened to leave a month before to California to be an actor and she didnt notice she was pregnant until she was already 3 months and now she's engaged to her new boyfriend and her mom is totally happy she's knocked up even though she 'sinned' by cheating on her fiancee and having sex before marriage but now she has to tell her fiancee and her father that she's pregnant and it's not immaculate conception! Oh no! Aaaah!
Too much drama, sounds like a REALLY BAD after school special and there are just too many things happening that come off as unrealistic. Same goes for the 37yr old rich guy who falls for the prostitute with 7 children who uses him for his money and allows her pimp to call. It's just too pathetic and dramatic to be real.
48I dont mean to be rude but this is just too dramatic a problem with too perfect of an ending to be 100% believable. We may just have to agree to disagree, thats the TeamSugar way!
49Er, whatever. I believe it [crazy sh*t happens these days]. Good for the guy for leaving that nutty tramp. And happy father's day.
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