All it takes is about $3,000, a semicircular cut, and 10 dissolving stitches for European Muslim women to get their hymens restored and keep new husbands happy by appearing to be virgins as a result of wedding-night blood.
One doctor interviewed by the New York Times said:
If you’re a Muslim woman growing up in more open societies in Europe, you can easily end up having sex before marriage. So if you’re looking to marry a Muslim and don’t want to have problems, you’ll try to recapture your virginity.
So what kind of problems do these modern Muslims face? Recently a French court upheld an annulment of a marriage that was founded on a lie about the bride's virginity. But now, under the pressure of secular critics, the justice minister, Rachida Dait, has changed her mind and granted an appeal. We'll have to stay tuned to see how that goes.
When women can appease their husbands by creating faux virginity with a medical procedure, it demonstrates how nominal virginity can be. But, to some this deception might be unforgivable deceit. Do you blame these women for getting this form of plastic surgery? Do you think the annulment would have been granted if the husband had lied about his virginity and the woman brought the case?









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"wedding-night blood." something to look forward to!
1This is just gross.
2Wow that is really gross.
3in the words of Harmony France "GROSS"
4
I'll never understand this virginity obsession. Just means your wedding night's not going to
be any fun.
5"Ow. Ow. Wait. No, that hurts. Ouch. Slow down. Um. Ow."
Why not inspect the women after you propose. Like looking at a horse's teeth? I mean as long as you're treating them like property ...
6Ugh. Absolutely appalling. But--I can understand why some women elect to get this surgery. I guess it's a matter of weighing a few things against each other--namely, what will happen if her husband finds out, or what will happen if she doesn't get the surgery in the first place...
7I recall my wedding night. After our intimate coalescence, I didn't bleed enough so I cut a chicken and let it's blood soak into the mattress. She left our condo and showed the other women in our complex that I was "untouched" and it gave her great pride. To this day, she does not know the full truth, but I don't care for she is proud of me and the fact that her husband was pure.
8How many of the other women smirked, thinking she alone knew the truth about you?
9I think the phrase of the day should be "intimate coalescence". Just throwing that out there.
10didn't princess di have an examination by the royal gynecologist before the engagement?
11I like the comedian Juff Dunham's comments on getting 70 virgins when you die (If you are Muslim):
"Why not get 70 easy women who know what the hell they're doing?"
12Unfortunately I can see some violent consequences if the husband finds out. They are playing with fire.
This is just my opinion but any relationship that's supported by just one pillar of dishonesty is bound for stormy seas ahead.
13Before anyone thinks what UnDave35 says about Muslims ... the word for Virgin and Date [as in the holiest fruit in the religion] are the same in Arabic. Just shows how men in conservative Muslim communities really think.
I think the situation is gross ... not because these women are putting themselves through this because of some idiotic cultural belief [not religious at all] ... but that the men who are marrying them are ignoring a fundamental belief of Islam:
FORGIVENESS.
14On a different note:
I just heard that the Army Corp of Engineers is closing the Mississippi River because of the flooding. I have one question - If they close the river, what are they going to do with all the water?
15It'll just have to go home, I guess.
And I think the need for this sort of thing- the fact that there is a demand for this surgery at all- is terribly, terribly sad.
If it saves the lives of women, though, I can't oppose it. Just the ideas behind it.
16I don't blame the women for doing this kind of surgery, since so many Muslim men refuse to marry a woman who isn't a virgin. I think it's ridiculous. You can't exactly prove a man is a virgin, can you? It's unfair and treats women as though they are goods that cannot be "used."
17What if these women didn't get the surgery? If the supply of "virgins" goes down, will the demand follow? What if there are no more virgins left to marry.
... Just a thought; but perhaps, some will simply look for younger brides...
18I had a Saudi friend who had to have a "statement of virginity" from a gynocologist chosen by the grooms' family before they would consent to the marriage - that would have definately freaked me out! I am with Bookish on this one - while I oppose the idea behind it and the "need" for this type of surgery, I am glad that they can actually do this surgery, especially if it saves women from being outcasts or killed.
19I think you are correct Liberty. Muslim men will look for younger brides in their search for a "virgin bride"
20Well if there are no more virgins left to marry I'll know that UnDave had something to do with it.
21Hey now, what have you been hearing? I deny everything!!
22"Well if there are no more virgins left to marry I'll know that UnDave had something to do with it."
Hee!
I'm a big feminist and it saddens me to see how things like the whole "virgin/wh*re" dichotomy are still (and always will be) perpetuated...
23I'm a big mannist, and it saddens me that women don't know their place in society.
(sorry, I couldn't resist)
24Mannist!
(I don't know all the fun emoticons on here, so I can't do a little fun face dancing around or anything...I'm boring with my :)s and ;)s...
)
25That's ok. Since you've got a good avatar, that's all that matters
26Well, I think the women willing to do it are a bunch of hypocrites. I dont see how their marriage would work if they marry someone that obviously doesnt share their phylosophy: their virginity is more important to their husbands than to them (whether we agree or not) they would just end up with miserable lives...
27these are customs so i kno they are different and gross bt customs of countries shudnt be the same really so theres nothing wrong of it 4 being different
28There are a lot of things my bf and me had different levels of importance on, gabiushka. That in and of it self doesn't mean you're doomed. I, for example, prefer not to communicate during football unless it's a commercial or during half time... he could care less about football.
29Wow this saddens me that so much emphasis is still put on women's purity and not on the men's.
30fuggit about eet. we are not gonna change their culture or religion.this new surgery helps the women get what THEY WANT. Is there no feminism in that?
31Good point, janneth.
32GROSS!!!!
33I find the deceit that these Muslim women resort to sad but understandable. It sucks that men of their culture aren't held up to the same standards.
34I know I'm joining this convo late- but Bengal Spice if you're still reading! I just had a quick question - "not because these women are putting themselves through this because of some idiotic cultural belief [not religious at all]" what is the idiotic cultural believe? I'm pretty sure Islam does preach not to have sex before marriage?
Which in that case, I do understand why these women have to go through this. Wish I could say it's easy to just go ahead and marry someone a little bit more liberal- because when the parents/family have so much input in who the daughters (and sons) marry, there's little room for that.
I do agree though Bengal about the notion of forgiveness. Interesting how we only follow that which is most convenient to us/serves in our best interest huh?
35hate to break it to the dudes, but girls can bleed even if they arent virgins......
36Hello! not wanting to be disturbed while watching sports is a minor subject so it doesnt matter if you agree with your partner or not. I know I would not have married someone whose break point was if I am a virgin or not, and since to these women that wasnt too important since they didnt wait after marriage...well I would think of finding someone that agrees with that philosophy. Thats just me...I am very happy with my life.
37chill chill ppl ..u just hav to do deal wit some different stuff like this even if its gross or wtever its like wtever
38lmao
39There are many religions that frown upon premarital sex ... but cultures that follow Islam sometimes take it too far. Islam also preaches that individuals have a right to be happy and satisfied in life. A woman shouldn't become an outcast because she found happiness in another relationship before she finally married. Premarital sex is an issue when determining the legitimacy of the bloodline. Most Muslim families don't want illegitimate children trying to take claim of family inheritance [all cultural instances and not a religious thing].
I also think many people have a misconception about arranged marriage in Islam. Islam states that a man and woman may choose who they marry. Parents have no right to choose and enforce their children to marry. Parents who pressure their kids into marrying someone the family approves of are going against what Islam preaches about marriage. It's another instance where the regional culture is manipulating the religion to fit their needs. The community is allowed to introduce prospective matches, but never to force someone into a union.
40Bengalspice- thanks for your perspective! I've been dating a (somewhat religious) Muslim guy (for several years now) who has taught me otherwise (in regards to premarital sex). I suppose many people can interpret their religion differently.
I agree with your second paragraph. I too am originally from South Asia and realize that forced marriages are a cultural thing.
41i m from different culture and my future husband is muslim 2 , but being from a different religion i dont know if i have to respect his religion 2...has anybody any ideas ???....what about if the woman is not bleeding in the wedding night ? it happens , and then the husband will think she wasnt virgin . haa??
42We Iranians are always a friend and we are always regret it live. . After his first for us and we are for him. . . not like you every night with one
43I just feel sorry for those who don't know the real taste of virginity. Both male and females.
44groSs!!!
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