An 88-year-old ex-Nazi may have nowhere to go. The US Supreme Court just rejected the deportation appeal of John Demjanjuk, who worked as a guard at a Nazi death camp during the Holocaust. Demjanjuk came to the US in the 1950s, only to be extradited to Israel and sentenced to death for war crimes. After his conviction was overturned, he came back to the US, lying about his Nazi past.

In 1993, Demjanjuk successfully proved he was not the notorious Nazi "Ivan the Terrible" after almost three decades of accusations. But, in 2002, an immigration judge ruled that there was enough evidence of a Nazi past to strip the guard-turned-Ohio car worker of his American citizenship. Yesterday, the Supreme Court upheld that decisions without comment.
Now that the highest court says he has to leave, it's not clear where he will be welcomed. He claims that he will be tortured in his native Ukraine. It is also uncertain whether Germany will accept him.
Should America make this senior citizen leave his family in America? Are some crimes so atrocious that more than six decades do not let us forget? Does America have an interest in stripping a former Nazi death camp worker, responsible for thousands of deaths, of his citizenship lest it offer his actions even the most passive approval?









James Darby
Kurt Geiger
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I think the big issue is will anyone take him, not whether we should send him back or not.
If someone will take him...
1Has he already served time for his Nazi crimes? If yes, (which seems unlikely) then the fact that he lied to obtain citizenship should bar him from citizenship residency here, except if sending him back would result in torture/unlawful death.
I agree with ZeZe. Love your new avatar by the way!
2My husband's mom is ready for this man in Ukraine
I agree with zz (nice avvy btw) if he hasn't done the time, and he lied, then why should we bend the rules all around trying to help him out.
I'm sure there are cases of good people applying for citizenship that have a much more legitimate claim to it than this guy and maybe they get screwed over some technicality but we don't hear about it because it's just a regular Joe Schmoe.
3Good Morning.
4well nice of you to join us hf
5well in one of the articles he said he was serving in the soviet army and captured by the germans, but it didn't say he was forced to be a guard, or what. i think that story needs more clarification. i think he definitely must have been involved to some extent. maybe he just needs to live out his life with a sign in his yard like a sex-offender.
6Thanks sy
7I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO hungover right now.
well good thing you showed up, because we got another yahoo link! It's the story about the pakistan people.
8Thanks Cine, Sy is the artist, so much talent!
9no way! i've got to see what the crazies say about that.
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yes my talent is nauseating. A circle. It's amazing.
11OH NO! Well I'm still drunk so this should be fun.
12go get em hf
13Kris that's an interesting point. I was wondering how he could be from Ukraine and be a Nazi guard. I would like to learn more about that too.
14Uh...It got linked?
15i didnt do it.
16I am sick of getting PM from the Yahoos. Yesterday I got one asking me to meet up with them for sex. Why would they ask the person with the avatar of an old man in Buddy Holly glasses?
17I just noticed it got linked!
18Cine maybe some people are into that.
19you report them cine, right?
20LOL!!!! Cine!!! I get pm'd all the time because they think I'm Kate.
21"LOL!!!! Cine!!! I get pm'd all the time because they think I'm Kate."
...wait, you're not Kate!!!!
The only reason I signed up is to be on the same blog as Kate!
You should be ashamed for misleading people like this!
22I'm SOOOOO sorry.
23God, nobody PM's me for anything interesting!
24I'm very ashamed of my deception.
25C'mon Cine, Buddy Holly glasses are hot!
Nobody PM'd me either. Maybe they think I'm the weird cube-girl? Cubes get no love. It's a crying shame.
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Cine! They PM me too. Crazy freaks!
27UGH. what's up with the stupid emoticons not working?
28I get them, too, harmony! I think they think I'm Gemma.
As for this story, I have been hearing about it for years because I'm originally from Ohio and this has always been a huge story there. The airport Demjanjuk flew in to when he came to the U.S. is in my hometown! It's one of our few claims to fame.
Anyway, it's an extremely complex story with no easy answers. I doubt anything will be resolved before Demjanjuk passes away.
29shop...you have to use ALL lower-case letters now for some reason. All though I kind of like the new oy.
30i would think they would find my mountains very sexy. my humps my humps my humps!
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33Oh not only do I get offers for sex, but then I get pm about being an idiot, yet when they explain why they think I am an idiot they don't make a coherent argument. And what I don't get, is I rarely if ever post in Yahoo threads, so why do they pick on me?
34Sy I reported one, but most I don't report. I just don't care enough.
35They're gross freaks! Just ignore them Cine!
36Well I am feeling very left out. I get no PMs from the Yahoos.
My cupcakes aren't sexy?!
37I got one once back when I had the pin up avatar... but then i took that avvy down and put married on my prof and that solved it!
38Cine put married on your prof... you're close enough!
39well if he did commit the crimes, he deserves to pay them, i dont care if he has been in the US this long.
40That would make me poser, wouldn't it? I don't want to jinx myself!
Thanks Shop. I do try to ignore them.
41I have a lot of questions. The article says that he was a guard. I can understand if he were a commanding officer originating inhuman commands, but I would think twice before I hold him accountable for being a guard who must follow orders or be killed himself.
Since his trans-Atlantic move here to the U.S. what kind of life has he led? Once here in the U.S. did he lead a life as a good citizen with out display of Nazi views? If so I would have given him a pardon and the benefit of the doubt.
42If he repents forgive him and let him stay....?
Or just leave him here and let him get it when he dies...
43He came to the U.S. in the early 50s and has support in his U.S. community, but the Justice Department says he definitely has a Nazi background. We've deported other people for similar crimes and I believe one guy was sent to Israel to be hanged in the '90s. Canada just sent a guy in his 80s back to Italy to serve time for being a guard there.
44What goes around comes around even if it takes 50 years send him back, he came to America illegally didn't he and we all know how Americans hate that if they aren't bothered by the fact that he was a Nazi. He participated in other people's torture, deportations and deaths, he deserves no mercy or sympathy.
45one thing I find interesting is that I don't hear of many former Nazi's who offer contrition as an excuse to be pardoned. I never hear of them saying that they were sorry or saw the error of their ways. not that it changes anything but i just never seem to hear that. You'd think someone would have tried it to get themselves off the hook.
46I think because they're too busy trying to deny they are guilty. Usually, they go with young and following orders - when it's been proved they actually were the guy, the behavior was so gross that 'I'm sorry' seemed a pathetic response.
47yep, i can see that.
48I agree with ZeZe way way up top.
Im kind of behind on these blogs....:/
49It doesn't make sense to me to make him leave.
I don't believe he's dangerous.
I don't believe that people will think "oh, we're going easy on the Nazis, now I can go be a prison guard without fear of consequenses!"
I don't know enough about his role in Nazi Germany based on the above story, but weren't the people responsible for most of the outrage imprisoned or killed already?
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