CNN is projecting that Barack Obama has lit up the ballot boxes and scored a win in the contest for North Carolina's 134 delegate votes.
He was expected to do well, and the exact number of delegates he'll take from the contest will be determined at the end of the counting, though it seems like he won by a sizeable margin. This is his first big state win in several contests.
Interestingly, CNN exits polls in both IN and NC are showing that less than half of Clinton's supporters would support Obama if he was declared the nominee.
Though the drawn out race worries some, it hasn't hurt voter registration numbers — quite the opposite. A new study shows that one in 66 Americans registered to vote in the first three months of this year. North Carolina expected a turn out of 50 percent in today's voting - double the rate of past primaries.
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That kid is doing what I'd like to do to Obama...
1Now, now, it's cute. And possibly/probably affectionate
2yea, yea, yea...
3And if you did that to Obama, he'd still smile and talk to you.
4psh I doubt that very much!
5
cabaker you crack me up.
6Obama is going to take NC! Woo Hoo!!
7You want to touch Obama? I never knew!
Exit polls that I have seen have said that 19 percent of Clinton supporters in IN wouldn't vote for Obama, compared with 15% of his supporters. That is a difference of 4%.
From CNN:
How did Obama do it? His overwhelming support among black voters in North Carolina certainly gave him a major edge – although only one in three primary voters Tuesday night fell into that demographic.
But Obama won every age group except voters 60 and older – by more than 35 points among those younger than 45. And Clinton’s edge with seniors – she won voters 60 and older 54 to 43 percent – wasn’t high enough to compensate.
And remember that voter registration? Obama won those first-time voters, 62 to 28 percent. The results among first-time primary voters – a group that includes Independents and Republicans weighing in for the first time in a Democratic contest – show the party’s fears of GOP mischief seem to have been off the mark: that group supported Obama by an even greater margin, 68 to 26 percent.
8I'm not surprised. Obama supporters are blowing up around here. I've only seen one Hillary bumper sticker and Obama stickers/shirts/signs/etc...are all over.
I actually had an Obama supporter come to my door yesterday, but I have no idea why...? A mile from post, we're all military non-residents and we're not registered to vote in NC.
9Some dems just aren't that smart Jennifer
10I think it is great that people were spending their time trying to get others involved in the civic process. Kind of low to suggest they aren't smart...was that really necessary?
11Interestingly, CNN exits polls in both IN and NC are showing that less than half of Clinton's supporters would support Obama if he was declared the nominee.
I wonder how much of that is election drama, and how many of those will still vote democrat, regardless of who the dem nominee is?
12Maybe, but as you get involved, you gotta know you're territory. That's like me trying to sell my products in my competitors back yard. Big waste of my time....
13Going door to door is the worst!
14There is worse things to do... I enjoy talking to people, and meeting new folks (imagine that). If I had a low self esteem, I could see my job being a problem.
The best perk is I get to set my own hours, so I get to be with my kids an insane amount of time. It's great
15For Obama's campaign, they don't randomly go to your door (unless these guys were renegades!).
They are equipped with the names and addresses of registered democrats, and are only trying to find the Obama supporters. They don't try to knock on every door and change people's minds. That is too invasive! It is not about persuasion, it is more about just locating the supporters.
16I mean going door to door for a candidate... not for sales!
Cold calling in sales is super fun!
17Jill you're right, I know we never did that on the repub side...
18Well, she must have been a renegade then.
We're not even registered to vote in NC, let alone
registered Democrats. She was very sweet, though. And it is good to see people getting involved.
19Not all that intelligent, but sweet
20just drive that point home dave!
21One of the polling places in our area was at a middle school. I think this is pretty unfair, especially to the older students who are old enough to make an educated decision but STILL CAN'T VOTE, even when it's going on in their gym lobby, right in front of them.
But back to what we were REALLY talking about...
22To borrow from Slate's coverage "Barack Obama was always supposed to win North Carolina. Twenty-one percent of the state’s population (Republicans and Democrats) is black; independents (but not Limbaugh-following Republicans) were allowed to vote; and Obama won both of the neighboring states’ primaries."
It feels like a big deal, since nothing good has been going for him in the media cycle, but in my burnout I'm tired of acting like something new is happening when it is stuff we knew was coming... and the bigger picture (still frontrunner, still picking up more superdelegates, etc) hasn't changed...
I guess the popular vote likely going his way? Meh, still not able to get up excitement till it is OVER and we have a candidate...
23I know there is only a month left, but if you are Hillary Clinton, do you call it at this point, knowing that you can't get the popular vote? I don't see how her staying in helps the party, or how she can concievably say she has a chance of getting the nomination by any method other than thievery.
24Yea but at the same time Dave, if she has the funds and like you said, there's only a month left... why not stay in?
25She is barely hanging on with the funds. She was already $1 million in debt before she got her "10 Million in 24 hour" thing. There were caterers in Iowa who had to get a lawyer because their invoices weren't paid. $10M is a lot of money, but she also spent a lot of money in these 2 states.
I can see why she is staying in, and I don't fault her for that. It doesn't make sense to me, however, that if she REALLY believes in the causes she stands for, why does she play so dirty? Why does she go so far out of her way to falsely discredit the person who will most likely be the person to achieve these common goals for her? It is like a relay race...just run the baton for your portion and then pass. If Obama wins, the causes she fights for also win.
But, that is just my thought! I understand people feel differently.
26Well Jill I agree with you, the good of the party should come first (thats what Mitt Romney said remember?)
but these are politicians, and putting aside their own egos??
not. gonna. happen.
27Ha! Loved the way you said that! I agree, I am not going to hold my breath hoping that she will gracefully bow out. The most I can hope for is that the superdelegates realize they need to act in the best interest for their party and the causes that they fight for, and go with the person who will most likely be the nominee. They can put him over "the number" in an instant.
287 of Obama's campaign headquarters received bomb threats today in Indiana. I haven't seen mention of it on the news at all yet!
Rush Limbaugh is trying to claim that he and "Operation Chaos" (has anyone seen Butters on South Park?), were able to get a bunch of republicans to go in and vote for Hillary. They wrote to him about how they did it, but ultimately, I don't think that would have had much of an impact.
29Ack...I took a nap and missed everything!
30Seriously, Hillary is going to be the reason we end up with another Republican in office. Thanks for tearing apart people that support all the same causes and have the same ideals. What makes us different? I guess its more of a who's a super-supporter of the feminist movement and who likes the black guy. I'm sad that people are so shallow on race and gender, that they would vote for the white candidate because she's white and she has a known name, even though she's causing more distress in this country than 9/11 ever did.
(No offense to the families and the victims of the September 11th tragedies...and I'm not saying they weren't important...I'm just saying Hillary's antics seem to get tons more press, and that much more of hatred towards fellow citizens than we did in 2001, when we pretty much disowned Muslim-Americans).
31Oh please. Hillary is not tearing this country apart. The democrats of this country are not sold on Obama. Sorry. It's the truth. OR he would've clinched this nomination by now. I find it sad that people automatically assume that if someone votes for Hillary that it must be because we've missed some cosmic point, are clearly intellectually deficient, or are voting because she's white or a woman. Why is it absolutely impossible to comprehend that out of half of this country's democrats some people might actually be voting for her because they actually believe in her and her policies....and her ability to GET THINGS DONE?
32So we are to assume that everyone is voting for Hillary for the wrong reasons...and for Obama for the right reasons? That's ridiculous. There are plenty of people that are voting for Obama because he's perceived as black, they've seen the YES WE CAN video, or they like his tie that particular day. It goes both ways.
I also take great offense at the implication that Hillary is more damaging to this country than 9-11. Sorry I do. Especially as a veteran. A veteran who supports Hillary Clinton.
I'm with Lady on Hillary - I think she's doing a great deal of damage just to satisfy her own ego. I remember when she was first lady and she and Bill made it clear then that they intended to run her after he was president. She came up with a half-baked health care plan back then that not even Democrats could get enthused about and were happy to let the Republicans kill it. Last week, she made a crack about obliterating Iran, then this weekend she told a crowd she 'could see herself' on her first day in office taking steps to start pulling troops out of Iraq. She's all over the place on the war. She calls for a gas tax holiday and when economists roundly reject her claim that it would help she questions their expertise. Hillary may not be tearing the country apart, but she's sure not doing it any good either.
33harmonyfrance, you definitely misinterpreted what I meant by her tearing the country apart. Its not because of voters voting for her, its because she's creating this rift between the democrats with her badmouthing. Yes, on both sides there are misinformed people that vote based on asthetics, yet she is STILL continuing to promote negativity to further her political career instead of being a good role model for young motivated girls. Yes, she has achieved things in her life, and I applaud her for where she's gotten, but the way she did it was based on bitter ruthlessness.
Her way to the top can be compared to a model that sleeps her way up the food chain: VILE.
34...ok, so I didn't state my case clearly. Sorry, that was my fault. Jumping ahead thinking I said something when I hadn't. Probably had something to do with me being on the phone at the time talking about the election
35No harm no foul lady...sometimes I think I've been perfectly clear and then I go back and read what I've written and I haven't. I disagree of course with your take on Hillary, but I see now what you meant. Sorry if I went off a little. I'm clearly very passionate about this, as are you.
36NBC's Russert: Obama has the nomination: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24499690#24499690
Putting the smackdown on Hillary.
37Nice new avatar Harmony!
Hillary can only win this if she takes every delegate in every primary, and then hijacks the superdelegates. She is dilusional if she thinks she can win the nomination at this point.
38Thanks UnDave!
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