A federal judge in Utah just ordered a $63,000 civil judgment against four people claiming to be chiefs of an American Indian tribe in eastern Utah. The men conducted tribal meetings at a fast-food restaurant and claim hundreds of tribal members. They won't recognize federal or state laws, issue their own drivers' licenses and have filed numerous lawsuits against Utah authorities for ignoring their purported sovereignty.

The group/tribe calls itself the Wampanoag Nation, using the name of Mashpee Wampanoag Nation, a Massachusetts tribe who greeted the Pilgrims in 1620. Yesterday the judge ordered the men to stop pretending to be American Indians and pay Uintah County damages. He called their tribe a "complete sham." Officials with the federally recognized tribe declared that the Utah men were obvious impostors.
Given some of the benefits extended to Federally recognized tribes, it's understandable the men might want to claim ancestry. Are tribal exceptions like gaming, good for everyone? To see a little bit about it, read more.
Benefits extended to members of tribes recognized by the US include: communication on a "government-to-government" basis with leaders of the tribes, medical and dental care, grants and programs for education, housing programs, aid in developing tribal governments and courts, resource management, and other services depending on need and interest.
One of the most visible tribal exceptions could be as close as your nearest casino: Indian Gaming.
Those in favor of Indian Gaming consider the thriving construction of casinos as a means of realizing the goal of full Tribal sovereignty, while opponents warn tribal leaders about the cultural costs of these operations. The two sides wonder whether or not casinos and culture can, in fact, co-exist peacefully — and still more wonder whether encouraging the growth of the gambling industry is good for the country or fair at the bottom line.
The Indian Gaming Regulatory Act (IGRA), passed by Congress in 1988, provides a source of income for tribes. Though Tribes have the power to tax their members, with unemployment high and taxable income low, tribes turned to gaming as a source of revenue. The IGRA was a Congressional attempt to strike a balance between the rights of tribes to engage in activities mostly free from state jurisdiction as well as the interests of states in regulating gaming activities within their boundaries.
In 2006 revenue from gaming was about $25.5 billion. Gambling on tribal lands employs about 327,000 people, and according to recent reports, led to about $80.7 billion added the U.S. economy and $11.7 billion generated in taxes. 228 tribes use gambling revenues to fund tribal governments and support social services, about 34 percent of tribes distribute direct payments to tribal members. Considered sovereign governments, tribes do not pay corporate income taxes on tribal revenue or property tax on reservation land. Those who live and work on reservations do not pay state income or property taxes, purchases made on Indian lands are tax-free.
Is this plan best for all involved? Does gaming provide a tempting pay-out that keeps tribal leaders wealthy and keeps tribal members dependent? What does a reliance on gaming do to tribal culture? To the surrounding culture? Are we gambling a rich cultural history on a pull of the slots? And what about that tax situation. . .?









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All I know is I LOVE Mohegan Sun in CT and I play on going later this month.. So Indian gaming is totally cool with me...
I thought that poverty and alcoholism/drug abuse where rampant on reservations... I never really understood how the money from the casinos gets divied up, if at all.
1We must not deprive these great people their heritage. Casinos have been a rich part of the American Indian tradition long before we founded this nation and it must not be taken away.
2I came across this study which speaks to alcoholism among Native American populations. . .
3I don't like the tax issue. If they want the same rights we Americans have, they should pay taxes on the earnings raked in at the casinos. Either that, or let every person in America decide to or not to pay taxes.
4Good point Undave. I was thinking that too.
5The tribal counsels in most of the reservations are horribly corrupt. So even though there is money, people on reservations live in extreme poverty, so much so many don't have electricity, while the tribal "leaders" drive around in escalades. It is really a disgusting site. At least with Casinos it gives the tribal members jobs, and an opportunity at a better life.
And their "social services" are a freaking joke.
6And I don't understand the independent sovereignty situation. I thought we were all citizens of a singular American government? Can I set up my own nation?
7I think there was a Family Guy episode with just such a plot, stiletta...
8He called it Peterstan. And there was also the episode where Peter pretended to be a Native American. Are you guys influenced somehow by Family Guy?
9I'm not sure if it's the same episode Citizensugar, but I just saw a family guy episode where lois got addicted to gambling from that type of Casino, and in order to win it back, Peter had to have a vision. Just saw it two days ago.
10Yep, the Petoria episode is the one where he wants to put in a pool but can't because his house isn't on the Quohog map, so he makes his own country - Petoria.
I'm more of a South Park fan myself, and I love the Indian casino one of that, where the Indians want to build a super highway through South Park, so they get together a bunch of money and go to the casino to play and turn it into enough money to save the town... The go, they win, but then Mr. Garrison says if they keep playing they can save the town and be filthy rich!
Stan's Dad: OH HELL YEA, LET IT RIDE!!!
And then they lose.
One of the best episodes ever.
Here is the link: southparkzone.com/episode.php?vid=707
11I also love the South Park episodes where Cartman tries to get The Family Guy canceled. Brilliant.
12The "talk" Stan's dad had with him was priceless as well.
13Dave I love that talk too... I've been in the car on the way home having that talk many times... "You're never supposed to stop when you're on a winning streak!!"
14wow, a couple people slept through history class. You may recall that the Native Americans didn't come over on the Mayflower and actually held the land that our ancestors then took and settled.
The U.S. Constitution recognizes Indian tribes as distinct governments and authorizes Congress to regulate commerce with "foreign nations, among the several state, and with the Indian tribes." Tribes reserve the rights they gave away and possess a "Nation-within-a-Nation" Status.
You could negotiate your own tax status if you had been here first, and had land that the U.S. wanted to take possession of. You could have your own casino if the government had minimized or just taken away your hunting, fishing and other usage rights to your land. They weren't left with many business options.
15I was hoping we could stay away from the whole "They were here first, and we drove them out and were mean to them" drivel. The whole European community is guilty of these attrocities. Taking the land you wanted wasn't considered a bad thing back then, and I am happy that they did so. It has allowed the enlightened people who came here to create this great country of ours, and that never would've happened if we had said "Oh this is your country, our bad. We'll go elsewhere."
IMO - Casinos should be taxed because those "nations within a nation" use all of this countries roads, and are defended by our police and fire departments. Those businesses should kick in a contribute to pay for those services.
16Let's have more family guy posts!!!
17Wow, Undave35, you think genocide is "drivel"? Are you familiar with what Europeans did to Native Americans?
18genocide isn't drivel. Blaming me and my generation for it is. Europeans didn't do this to just native americans. They did it to the central and south american populations. That would be why spanish is the language mostly spoken south of US.
19No one's blaming you personally Dave: you however, thought that you should have the right to decide whether or not you should have to pay income taxes because you thought the Indians were getting preferential treatment. The point of bringing up the history is to give you background on why the tribes are treated differently.
20And you love to bring up the crusades and the Moors and any other historical reference you can to try and justify kicking butt in the Middle East, why should history be considered drivel here?
It should be considered with the muslims because they are still fighting that war with us.
21Wow, UnDave, you really went there. You really believe that genocide is a good thing? I know we have our differences politically, but I am genuinely shocked at what you wrote. You're really happy that an entire race of people was brutally murdered? That's really sick.
22Wait Rac, you call UnDave sick, but were laughing at jokes about babies in a freezer yesterday? Hmmmm....
23I never said I was happy about the genocide. Please don't put words in my mouth.
24Is an explanation between one horrible and random act and a systematic genocide of an entire race of people really necessary?
25Well there are still Native Americans so the entire race wasn't murdered. Though I would argue that they got it worse than any other ethnicity...
I think what Dave is trying to say is that while those events were tragic, they did lead us to be able to develop a nation here. And so far thats worked out for all of us who are commenting right now. So my guess is that Dave is saying why should we be forced to pay reparations for the rest of eternity for events that happened over 100 years ago?
Dave correct me if I'm not understanding you.
26Maybe you can explain why the horrible act of a mother killing her infants and putting them in a freezer is funny at all, being random or not.
I am just pointing out a bit of pot and kettle action going on.
27No, the Muslims are not united in fighting a war against us, but maybe if the Indians make enough off the casinos, they'll decide it's time to take the country back.
28are you talking about just in this country cabaker, or in the history of the world? Because a lot of races got it pretty bad in world history.
29I don't think genocide can be justified by then building a country you like on the graves... and no one's saying anything about reparations. The Indians are separate because the U.S. government made deals to end the wars and to get what the U.S. wanted.
30I wasn't calling UnDave sick. I was calling that argument sick and I don't see how anyone can argue for genocide?
31Well i don't really see that he was arguing FOR genocide. But then again, I don't know how people find dead babies funny. So maybe we just differ once again.
32Well by not making them pay any taxes we're losing out on a lot of money, which means we're essentially giving that money to them hence reparations... And maybe those deals need to be re-examined.
Cine, I think I was speaking in the history of America.
33That is what I figured. Just making sure
34Some communities are on land 'leased' from tribes 100 years ago, at the cost of about a penny. You start re-assessing taxes, and they start re-assessing rents at current values or better yet, they'll start asking what happened to all the oil rights money the Bureau of Indian Affairs was holding for them. Study up on the subject and you'll find that the U.S. still comes out way ahead in its dealings with the native nations.
35Well then why not give them their due and be done with it?
36I think one city that was dealing with leases coming due recently was Albany (if not Albany, some place in upstate NY). The city was looking at millions of dollars in new rents if the Indians decided to modernize the leases. There were arguments over who should pay: the homeowners now living on land that they didn't know was part of the leased land, the city council, the state, or the federal government. If the Feds pay the Indians a lump sum for all the property any U.S. jurisdiction has anything on or uses, it's going to cost and fortune - then, if the Feds by the land your house is on do you then have to buy land you already thought you owned from the Feds?
37What if the Indians decide not to sell, and just take the land back?
I think you're thinking of Syracuse... there are always issues with Native Americans out there...
38Well if we didn't take all the good land and leave them with the $#!+ plots they might be more self sustaining.
On a personal level in light of what has been done to and taken from Native Americans I would choose not to charge them taxes.
It's not their fault that we have an economic system that implodes upon it's self now and then and the only reason we're taping them on the shoulder for money is because we're running out of places to turn.
39Yes, Syracuse sounds more right than Albany.
40Interesting that you say those who live and work on "Indian or tribal land" or "reservations" do not pay tax on purchases...I beg to differ.. I am a member of the Seminole Tribe of Florida and paid tax on purchases made on tribal land. We do receive "dividends" from the revenues from casinos, etc...a monthly check distributed to each tribal member and under 18 members receive partial checks with the rest put into a trust. Income taxes are deducted from EVERY check EVERY month. Honestly...the small bit of land tribes still actually own and people still complain about not paying property taxes? The Seminole Tribe owns, or still has rights to its own land...but it is about 96000 acres STATEWIDE. If you think about that, its really not that much. Sure the atrocities that took place against the Native Americans happened a LONG time ago, so did the Holocaust and slavery. But does that mean we forget about these things? Of course not.
41People must also realize that some Native Americans and their reservations are not modernized. That means they do not have TV, pipes/plumbing, and other luxuries we take for granted. If you grow up in this environment with not a picture of the outside world all you know is this life. Their education system is poor; so it is harder for some to get to college; they have the lowest numbers in the US for education. It's funny how they get so little but their community is still having alcohol pumping into the environment. Hard to get off an addiction.
42Great point faerymagick15, the funny thing is I think most people want to sweep it under the rug and only visit the subject in history class.
43bellaressa, I don't know which reservations you have visited but where I lived it was definitely NOT as you described. Everyone had TV's, lots of big screens actually, pipes and plumbing, with our own water treatment plant, gorgeous homes with pools, a huge rec center with baseball, basketball, and soccer teams, a local government building worth millions...their own TV station...shall I go on??? yes, there are reservations that are poor, but the majority do live in this century now. And...my father has his doctorate as do many tribal members. Many work in government to further our cause.
44faerymagick15, I am referring to reservations I visited in North and South Dakota. I am not saying all reservations are like this but there are some.
45That is why I included my statement about some being poor. I realize not all of them have had what I did.
46All I was stating is what I experienced first hand, I know that not all NA reservations are like Seminole Tribe of FL. There are people living below poverty just like there are people in the US living the same. You just can't make assumptions that people are living the high life b/c you think they are not paying taxes. What you and I think of is fair is not the definition of our government.
47Wait, UnDave, the "enlightened people"???
48What does that mean? That the people already living there were unenlightened?
This is a really interesting topic, very controversial. I find it hard, personally, to comment on it because there is so much history and stories. Generally speaking, I think that in order to live somewhat peacefully that both sides need to work together and there also needs to be respect.
Another interesting topic along these lines are the Native Hawaiians. I've taken a class at the Univ of Hawai'i about their history and according to my teacher, the US unlawfully annexed Hawai'i. Just recently an Hawaiian sovereignty group occupied 'Iolani Palace claiming that the Hawaiian Kingdom is there's, not the US's. I could go on about this topic.... how bout a post on citizensugar?
Here's a link about the 'Iolani Palace occupation: If you have time read the other articles about this topic, and definitely check out the comments on this particular article!!
49http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880501035...
I was referring to our founding fathers, who, in their infinite wisdom decided that the power should belong to the people, and those people should be able to decide the fate of their country. No where before the creation of this great nation has that ever happened before. England and France have since followed suit, but they are just a distant second to the people that created this method of governing.
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