Barack Obama has just delivered a speech addressing the spiraling recurrence of questions and debate surrounding remarks made by Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright. The inflammatory statement made by Obama's spiritual adviser led to poll results released yesterday showing that 56 percent of voters would be less likely to vote for Obama given the remarks. Acknowledging that the subject of race has also become unavoidably prominent, Obama boldly and powerfully addressed the effect of both on his candidacy saying,
On one end of the spectrum, we've heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action; that it's based solely on the desire of wide-eyed liberals to purchase racial reconciliation on the cheap. On the other end, we've heard my former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, use incendiary language to express views that have the potential not only to widen the racial divide, but views that denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation; that rightly offend white and black alike.

He then unflinchingly tackled the issue of race, acknowledging that "anger" and "resentment" have built over time on all sides of racial divides. He said by addressing the issue honestly, therein lies the only path to growth.
For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle — as we did in the OJ trial — or in the wake of tragedy, as we did in the aftermath of Katrina — or as fodder for the nightly news. We can play Reverend Wright's sermons on every channel, every day, and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she's playing the race card, or we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies.
We can do that.
But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we'll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change.
Did these words move you? Is this the path to change? Do you think that a bold and inclusive statement like this speech will satisfy those who disagree with Obama's relationship to Wright, or who may be considering the issue of race? Did he succeed in both silencing the Wright controversy, and addressing the broader issue of race in this country? Is this the appropriate time to make this statement?
Did he sound presidential to you?
To read the most personal explanation of both his relationship to Wright and his race, read more.
I can no more disown him [Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe. These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.
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Miu Miu
That speech was very Jed Bartlet.
1Of course he's not my candidate, but I will say I believe he has handled as well as he possibly could have. This, of course, does not necessarily mean that he will be let off the hook. (And please note I am not implying that he should or shouldn't be let off the hook, just implying that the media may drag this out some more.......)
2The speech was good. It didn't really change my opinion, as I already agreed with everything he said. I would be interested to hear what someone who didn't already agree with him thinks.
3And 3M, I agree, he has handled this very well.
4
Sorry Obama supporters I don't buy it but good speech
5But I di think the media needs to stop with this story. I'm tired of hearing about it.
6*do
7finally the speech is over with, am so over this story
8rhetoric.
good ole' campaign rhetoric.
9sooo true Syako
10I agree. But nobody said you have to vote for the guy
to give him a break. I think
the media will drag this further, mostly because they need to fill air time between now and the Pennsylvania primaries.
11I like the positive way he's tried to handle this and it makes me feel even more comfortable supporting him.
12just words, oh really Obama... don't tell me words don't matter... loving of all of this
13Well the man can deliver a speech, but we all knew that. I do not think this speech will have any affect on his supporters, because we already know, his die hard supporters will never change their opinion on this man ( I mean no offense by this comment), it is also not going to sway people like me who was going to vote from McCain before the Wright debacle.
I am interested in the fence sitters. Will they listen to the speech and believe it? Or is the damage already done? I am leaning towards already damage done. I say this because I hear people all the time who are on the fence with Obama saying that they don't know if they should vote for him because they think he has Muslim ties, or because they think he will not say the pledge of allegiance. I think this will put them over the edge. And being that this speech happened during the day, most people are not going to take the time to listen to it in full.
14That's an interesting point about the speech happening during the day, cine. I hadn't really thought about that. I guess people will hear sound bites as opposed to the entire speech.
15Great points Cine! Since I'm at work I didn't get a chance to listen to the entire thing and I don't plna on it.
16*plan
17primetime would have been better... i was left underwhelmed by the whole speech... but i do agree with him that we cannot solve our racial issues in one election cycle
18What is smart about giving it on daytime is that the media will be able to stretch it out all day, showing it over and over, and analyzing it come night time TV. If you hold it at night, it will be old news by the morning.
Also, I respect McCain, though I will most likely not vote for him, and I talk about his skills and record with respect.
19Welcome back Tres!
Good point though. You know the media will do that.
20I think it is really sad, because ultimately we need to elect a president based on that person's policies and decisions. I sometimes think that if the founding fathers of this country were running for office today, they'd be smeared and run into the ground for reasons other than their ideas.
Also, I have to say how frustrating it is that non-Obama supporters dismiss his skill with words. Being a great speaker is a HUGE part of the presidency. Countries around the world have LAUGHED at America when our current president can't pronounce words correctly. Our current president has stirred anger and violence around world by waging war and then bringing religion into it. And let's not forget that sometimes diplomacy and saying the right thing can be a huge step toward avoiding war and conflict in the first place. Sometimes saying the right thing can save American lives.
21I find it interesting how certain issues can sway voters so easily. I too am interested to hear from those ppl on the fence about Obama. Every candidate obviously has their "die-hard supporters" (which is very obvious from the comments on citizen ALONE) so yes, it's time for us diehard supporters to listen to others.
22I see your point tres, but Obama is a STRONG public speaker. The news does nothing for his presence in my opinion. And I think that will hurt him a bit.
23Juju- I completely agree with your second statement. One of the main reasons I prefer Obama to Hilary. (I suppose this would be an example of what "sways" me!)
24"Also, I have to say how frustrating it is that non-Obama supporters dismiss his skill with words. " - Hmmm, it seems to me that most of the conservatives on this thread actually said he was well spoken and he did a good job on this speech. I don't think his ability to speak has been discounted, but some people said that the media has damaged him on this topic more than his speech will fix.
25Shop:
I missed your funny comments!
Cine: There's no doubt it will hurt him. It makes this race even more exhausting, for every one involved and un-involved. It is a long road to November however, so will have to see how it plays out and it might be a different situation in a few months.
I'll say I think it is wise of both Clinton and McCain to stay out of this; even if it is the smart thing to do it is also the nice thing to do.
26Thanks Tres!
27i won't deny he's not a good speaker, but still, he's not my candidate.
28"I won't deny he's not a good speaker, but still, he's not my candidate." - Agreed.
29What does it say about the quality of our politicians that everyone is so excited that we have a candidate who can speak in complete sentences? It seems that throughout history, all great leaders have also been great orators.
I have been torn between Obama and Hilary for most of this election season. I do really like the kind of first lady that Hilary was, strong, driven, take no prisoners. But I didn't like her quite as much as a Senator. I wasn't entirely sold on Obama because I felt like he was a lot of hype and I wanted to wait and see what substance there was.
Right now I'm leaning toward Obama because I love, love, love great speakers and he comes off as more honest. Plus I love his wife. Things like this don't sway me though because he's being assailed by things that have nothing to do with him.
I have yet to find a candidate that jives perfectly with all my beliefs or even one that matches all my top issues, but Obama is starting to sound more and more like he may be it.
30honestly, jeremiah wright disgusts me. and i have to say that its not just his racial slurs and black supremism that bothers me. he goes BEYOND racism in his sermons. saying that we deserved the 9/11 attacks? and saying God Damn America?! no, that goes beyond race. that just is pure hate. it reeks of the same islamic fundamentalists who want to kill us. the same fundamentalists who rejoice in the death of americans.
the fact is, obama has gone to this church for 20 years. it cannot be that over 20 years he has never heard pastor wright say these horrible things. what did they just wait until he left the room? "quick obama left, americans suck! oh wait, he's back - the bible says do unto others as you would do to yourselves" COME ON!!!
any other presidential candidate in the HISTORY of this country would have had to leave his church with a pastor like that. so why does obama get a pass?! there are no other churches for him to go to?
and furthermore, saying that wright's sermons come from anger -- that sounds to me like a justification. there has not been slavery in america for decades. the civil war was over 100 years ago. the civil rights movement was over 40 years ago. enough with the anger. you know, my grandfather was the sole survivor of his family in the holocaust. but i dont sit in anger and hate all germans and austrians -- or even america for not getting involved soon enough. and you know what, neither does my grandfather.
having been oppressed in the past does not give people who were NOT victims of such oppression the "right" to hate everybody now. that just doesn't make sense.
and nothing, nothing, excuses somebody for saying that innocent people deserved to be killed.
i say, god bless america. because it was in america that my grandfather was able to build a new life for himself. god bless america, because its here that we can all be who we are and believe what we want without fear. i say god bless america, because now, forty someodd years after the civil rights movement, everybody is truly equal.
i also say that anybody who thinks otherwise or can justify somebody thinking otherwise should not, and can not, be the right person to lead this country.
it doesn't matter if obama was there when wright said god damn america, because obama sat there for 20 years listening to this man. he became a christian because of this man. he quotes this man in his first book - speaking about the impression that wright made on him. i have to tell you, if i ever heard my rabbi say something offensive, believe me i would never go to that synagogue again. then again, in my synagogue the rabbi would be thrown out.
what kind of patriotic person goes to a church for 20 years where the pastor is anti american?! and anti white! especially when said person's mother is white. what kind of person goes to a church where the pastor blames white people for aids in africa and doesn't see an issue with that -- in fact goes beyond not seeing an issue -- but has a close relationship with such person!!! and what kind of person then asks that pastor to be on his political advisory commitee?!?!
the kind of person with bad judgement. the kind of person who isn't fit to lead this country.
31"Talkers are usually more articulate than doers, since talk is their specialty."
-thomas sowell
"Rhetoric is a poor substitute for action, and we have trusted only to rhetoric. If we are really to be a great nation, we must not merely talk; we must act big."
32-teddy roosevelt
oops, that went through twice...
anyway in terms of being a good speaker.
yes, obama is a wonderful orator. and hes handsome, and he has charisma.
and while that is a very nice image of a president, im not so interested in the image as in what lies beneath.
at this time, when our country is in such crisis - i mean bear sterns closed! bear sterns!! i dont want somebody who looks and sounds good, i want somebody who will lead and fix the problem.
i dont care if they have 3 eyeballs and have no charisma at all. im not judging a book by its cover on this election. its whats they can do, not what they project that counts for me.
33I see this still makes some of you mad.
34"at this time, when our country is in such crisis - i mean bear sterns closed! bear sterns!! i dont want somebody who looks and sounds good, i want somebody who will lead and fix the problem."
I completely agree.
35The guy can't catch a break. To be honest, everything you guys have said around here...it's nothing new. You just chalk it up to 'good ol' rhetoric' and dismiss him again. It took a lot to get to where he is today, don't forget that. He made his points and I stand behind him 100%. How could you sit there, hear/read that speech and think it's all bull? Respect him for being an upstanding citizen at least. The American public is UN-BE-LIEV-ABLE. They're so intent on making you then watching you bleed to death. And don't even say 'that's politics', WAKE UP and see what mess we're in today because of the people in office who have completely screwed us over(I don't even have to name names here).
36lol and some of us are obviously living in a fantastical world (or shall I say country)...
37I was listening to Audacity of Hope in the car, and he says this in Chapter 2:
"This does not mean that those who are struggling or those who of us who claim to speak for those who are struggling are their by freed from trying to understand the perspective of those who are better off.
Black leaders need to appreciate the legitimate fears that may cause some whites to resist affirmative action.
Union representatives can’t afford not to understand the competitive pressures that employers may be under.
I am obligated to see the world through George Bush’s eyes, no matter how much I disagree with him.
That is what empathy does. It calls all to task. The conservative and the liberal. The powerful and the powerless. The oppressed and the oppressor. We are taken out of our complacency; we are pressed beyond our limited vision."
38Syako -- have you been able to catch the John Adams miniseries on HBO?
I'd wager to say that many people who are "talkers" are also doers...AND they have the ability to rally members of both sides to come together and actually get things done. So, they can sway others to be doers as well. We'd have never separated from England if we didn't have great orators that decided to speak up and share their ideas.
39I'm not discounting great orators.
40First, Church isn't just about 1 man, it is about COMMUNITY. It is about the people in the congregation as much as it is about the sermons.
Obama has worked as a community organizer in THIS community for years. He was introduced to the church while doing work for the community. There are 6,000 people that go to this church. How many of those people has Obama worked with in other ways? How many of them has Obama helped?
This is part of their mission statement, and it coincides with Obama's goals for lifting up the impoverished:
"We are called out to be "a chosen people" that pays no attention to socio-economic or educational backgrounds. We are made up of the highly educated and the uneducated. Our congregation is a combination of the haves and the have-nots; the economically disadvantaged, the under-class, the unemployed and the employable. The fortunate who are among us combine forces with the less fortunate to become agents of change for God."
41"Throughout the nation men and women, forgotten in the political philosophy of the Government, look to us here for guidance and for more equitable opportunity to share in the distribution of national wealth… I pledge myself to a new deal for the American people. This is more than a political campaign. It is a call to arms."
F.D.R.
Syako: he also said this in his acceptance speech after his first Presidential run in 1932. Sounds like.. Obama?
42I think it's extremely interesting that some of the same people who are criticizing others for tearing Obama down are doing the EXACT same thing to Hillary on other threads. Actually, many of them are saying much worse things about Hillary.
43And, believe me, Obama has caught a lot of breaks in his life. (I know he's an extremely hard worker, but a little bit of luck/good timing has played into his success, as well-the same goes for Hillary, McCain, and most successful people. Success it generally about a great deal of hard work with a little bit of luck thrown in.)
44I know there was already a thread on this, but I am having trouble resisting responding to htiduj so I will keep it brief. I do think that Wright was unnecesarily inflamatory with his remarks, but he has a point. The United States has been killing innocent people for many many years. First it was justified because we had to stop the spread of communism, now it is justified because we have to stop terrorism. I do not in any way agree with what Al Quaeda did on 9/11. I just wish that people would realize that the body count on that day is a joke compared to what we have done. But we do it to third world "backwords" countries so I guess it doesn't count, huh?
Okay, I'm done ranting on that.
45tres - what?
46htiduj - excellent comments
47THANK YOU, Mariner Mandy!
48I was strongly offended by Rev. Wrights choice words from the beginning but equally offended at the media for insisting upon us that Sen. Obama is not his own man. That over twenty years of diligent work in community and government to bring people together across racial, political, economic, and gender lines through unity can be nullified by another mans colorful opinions goes against every standard of good reason that I can think of.
What I also found equally disappointing in this matter is that so man people opted to buy into this notion. It is as if our reasoning skills have surrendered. Now that's scary.
49jillness -- i take your point about obama and his community. though you can still help a community without going to the church.
HOWEVER. its not like obama was just going to the church to be involved in the community and whatever they have a crazy pastor.
obama has said that it was PASTOR WRIGHT that convinced him to become a christian (though what brand of christianity pastor wright is selling is questionable. what happened to turn the other cheek?!) it was PASTOR WRIGHT who married and baptized him. it was PASTOR WRIGHT that he used as a "sounding board" to "make sure I'm not losing myself in the hype and hoopla." Both the title of Obama's second book, The Audacity of Hope, and the theme for his keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in 2004 come from PASTOR WRIGHTS sermons. Obama CHOSE trinity church and PASTOR WRIGHT. Obama writes in his autobiography that on the day he chose trinity church, he felt the spirit of black memory and history moving through Wright, and "felt for the first time how that spirit carried within it, nascent, incomplete, the possibility of moving beyond our narrow dreams." it was PASTOR WRIGHT whom obama put on his religious advisory board. and it was PASTOR WRIGHT who campaigned for him by saying things like "nobody every called hillary a n----r"
obama and jeremiah wright had a very close relationship. obama wasn't just going to that church for 20 years because of the community. no, he was going to that church for 20 years because of his respect and his relationship with pastor wright (who he met before he went to chicago).
doesn't this bother you?!
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