This is the most ignorant coming from a campaign who assaults the media for being gender biased. But I'm sure Senator Clinton thinks all is fair in this race, as do many of her supporters, so she'll let it sit and simmer for a while. She shouldn't throw so many stones that actually hits herself though, it takes away from her credentials.

Clinton supporters, are you supporting this as well? Funny how it is OK if she does things John McCain wouldn't seriously consider.

And Senator Clinton would be where if it wasn't for Bill?

When Obama stops threatening black superdelegates future votes and calling them Uncle Toms if they continue to side with Clinton; when Obama stops making misogynist gender dogwhistles; then we'll talk about a fairly innocuous and opinion from the other camp.

Why are people afraid to say he's black? People surely aren't afraid to say Hillary's a woman. Sorry, race IS an issue. If it wasn't then there wouldn't be stories from black superdelegates who did in fact switch their pledged support form Clinton to Barrack based on calls from him and his camp threatening them in regards to race.

And what is it with people calling Hillary a b*tch? Are those who hate McCain or Bush calling them b*tches? No? No. Sad.

The only one I've heard calling her a b*tch was Tina Fey. And who is afraid of him being black? I would be inclined to call that statement retarded but I won't because that would be an insult. They are all calling the super delegates, so unless you are one yourself, I would say your conspiracy theories are manufactured by the Clinton campaign, and swiftly adopted by her crowd. If he is in fact threatening any one he should be arrested, but my guess is that this is BS. And, he is number one on all accounts except on super delegates, so quit whining about how unfair the world is.

Where would Senator Clinton be today if it wasn't for Bill?

This is a pretty dopey comment, but it would be silly to say that race and gender plays no role whatsoever.

Context is everything but I haven't found anything that redeems this statement yet. If being an african american male is such a plus in politics why aren't more elected officials black?

Daisie, I love calling men b*tches, it totally catches them off guard.

The only one who is actually calling Hillary Clinton a b*tch is Tina Fey. And she is a Clinton supporter, so take it up with her.

Secondly, who is afraid of Obama being black? Uhm, no one? I don't even remotely get what you are pressing here. Thirdly, Obama's crudely hijacking of super delegates sounds like a nicely fabricated news by the Clinton campaign, swiftly picked up by her crowd. Unless you yourself is a super delegate I won't take your word for it, no. Is ther anything else he has done that you bring up, has he threatened them to tickle-death unless they vote for him? Honestly, these are conspiracy theories. And ridiculous ones at that.

Where would Senator Clinton be today if it wasn't for Bill? Not running for office.

Well...I kind of think she's right. This country is always talking about when we'll have a black president or a woman president. Then, a charasmatic politician who happens to black steps on the scene. I think it's only natural that people gravitate towards him for his charisma but also because he is black. I do not for a second think that takes anything away from his accomplishments, but if he were white I doubt that he would be in this position so quickly.

It goes both way too though. As was mentioned above, Hilary wouldn't be where she is without Bill. If he had never been president she wouldn't have gained the national exposure she had. I doubt she would have been succesful winning a seat in the senate if she hadn't been first lady.

My comment was flagged so I wrote a new one but now I see they posted both. Oh well. Doesn't hurt to say it twice!

Gender and race do have something to say, along with religion and such, but this statement from Fererro was just ridiculus.

Exactly tresjolie

Like anybody would know who HRC was if she wasn't married to Bill? Does anybody seriously believe that the junior senator from New York, who has never held public office prior, would have had any chance at all in this race had this not been the case?

"I do not for a second think that takes anything away from his accomplishments, but if he were white I doubt that he would be in this position so quickly."

I disagree with this, but my opinion would still be impossible to prove, as is yours.

Hillary would have ridden on someone else's coattails for political success had it not been for Bill.

I need to read the book that points this out, that she gained all of her success and power essentially by being married to a very charismatic and powerful man.

this isnt the first time she has said this either. she said pretty much the same thing on john gibsons radio show a couple weeks ago, there is a clip of up on youtube somewhere. and i think the response from the clinton camp is so hypocrital( 'we disagree') when it was only a couple says ago that they were all up in arms for obama to fire his advisor over an ill advised statement. the fact that she hasnt resigned or at least the campaign said we 'denounce and reject it' just goes to show that the clinton camp holds themselves to a different standard. its really sad.....

"the fact that she hasnt resigned or at least the campaign said we 'denounce and reject it' just goes to show that the clinton camp holds themselves to a different standard."

I completely agree, lacey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqL_sm0J8jc here is the link if anyone wants to hear her actually say it.

She definitely worded it badly. I can KIND OF see her point, but she never should have said that. HRC and BO need to control their staff and advisors. Why are they all running around spouting their mouths off? They are connected to a PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN! They should be more careful of what they say. Hillary is going to have to get rid of her or people are going to freak out.

This is from CNN latest on the story:

"The former congresswoman is the latest Clinton surrogate to launch a firestorm with comments that related to Obama's heritage or ethnicity.

Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton, drew sharp criticism from black leaders for a series of comments he made before the South Carolina primary, including comparing Obama's campaign to Rev. Jesse Jackson's 1984 campaign.

Former Nebraska Sen. Bob Kerrey, a major Clinton backer, said several times that an Obama presidency would improve the world's image of the U.S. because of his Muslim roots.

And shortly before the Texas primary, 84-year-old Clinton supporter Adelfa Callejo told CBS 11 News in Dallas that Obama would have trouble attracting Latino support because he was African-American.

Last month, when Hillary Clinton was asked if she would reject and denounce Callejo's remarks, she said, "People get to express their opinions," adding that "a lot of folks have said really unpleasant things about me over the course of this campaign."

Later, her campaign released a statement saying that she had been unaware of the substance of the remarks during that interview and both denounced and rejected them."

Daisie, your post is filled with lies. Obama has never threatened to call Uncle Tom on people. It is irresponsible to spread that kind of gossip. What is true is that Hillary and her camp will lie on conference calls to terrify Jewish American voters (Newsweek March 3rd). How can you trust the lies she is throwing out there?

And I am sorry, but Ferraro's point is not true! Obama is the only African American senator right now, I believe. It doesn't give you an advantage to be African American!!!! What a crock of poo! Are African Americans the majority of the voters in the United States? No. They are only 20-30 % of the population. All candidates are helped and harmed by their race/gender, even John McCain. There is no factual basis to say that Obama's success is based on his race. There have been many black candidates before, and his organization is like nothing that has ever happened in politics before.

The fact that she would say something so vile to defend a point that never existed is just breath taking. Wow, a new low has been hit.

Pretty soon HRC and BO are not going to have anyone working for them.

HAHA Piper! That's true!

LOL! So true piper!

"Like anybody would know who HRC was if she wasn't married to Bill? Does anybody seriously believe that the junior senator from New York, who has never held public office prior, would have had any chance at all in this race had this not been the case?"

Good point. Especially considering that her history isn't what she portrays. She didn't have security clearance.

Won Wednesday, on CNN, she claimed that she brought peace to Ireland, and that was a big part of her foreign relations experience. Yesterday, Nobel Prize winner Lord Trimble said that she was exaggerating her position, and the most she did was escort Bill around. She held a photo op with 7 women, and that was it. He called her a cheerleader, and said it was silly that she would take credit for bringing peace to Ireland.

The press has been too easy on her. Her TRUE credentials need to be examined. Even her first real job out of school she got because Bill referred her.

I'm surprised there's not really a stronger "hells yes, that's inappropriate" option in the choices.

give me a freakin' break. like ferraro would've been nominated for VP had she not been female. not only is it a dumb and wrong statement, it also came from the person affiliated with Hillary's camp who was in the worst position to say it!

I'm really shocked at the tin ear of the entire HRC campaign staff -- they keep choosing the worst things to say, thinking the statements will play with voters, and then having to deal with the backlash.

Oops! Should be "On Wednesday" not "won wednesday"

I am so sick of the ignorant statements this campaign seems to be encouraging! First I've got Erica Jong on HuffPo telling me that the only reason I'm supporting Obama is because I am more comfortable being a subject in a patriarchal system, and now Ferraro is stating that Obama's only gotten this far because he's black? And, as tres pointed out, then wouldn't be fair to say that Clinton's success is due to her being a Clinton or being a woman? This is ludicrous statement, and, to me, its offensive more for its ignorance than its potential racism. I had to read this article multiple times before I could fully accept that it really is as stupid as I thought it was.
And Daisie- Can you find me documented instances of Obama calling people Uncle Toms and "making misogynist gender dogwhistles?" Those are pretty troubling things, so I'd like to know the specifics. Also, I am not afraid to say that Obama's black, but apparently some people have a hard time saying that he is both competent and black. Heck, most people take issue when you point out that he's biracial and not Muslim...I see a general clinging to this "black man vs. white woman" binary that the news media has forced onto the American public. When can we move on from this fruitless categorization to learning about actual policy points? Tina Fey is the first person I'd ever heard reference HRC as a "b*tch," but just for the record, I do call people I don't like derogatory names, don't you? Why should that exclude politicians? I can call HRC a b*tch if I so choose, just as I often refer to GWB as a dumb monkey and an @sshole.

Whew! Rant over. But I'm still mad!

I wasn't clear enough. When I was referring to people calling her a b*tch I meant people on Sugar that don't like and other places. As I've said before, b*tches get things done. As well, I'm all for reclaiming that word as a positive moniker.

The info on the superdelegates is not manufactured by the Clinton campaign. It's been on news sites.

"[One black supporter of Clinton, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri] said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate? ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?"
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1713596,00.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=19096400

There are other besides Cleaver.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/02/29/report-black-superdelegates-supp...
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/29/namecalling-and-harassment-the-new...

Thanks Jillness and Tresjolie! Y'all pretty much voiced my opinions in a much more brief and eloquent (and less riled up) way.

Hillary's overblown resume would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic. How come she never mentions her healthcare fiasco, the one thing her husband actually gave her to do.

Oh dear, please ignore my typos in the mega-comment above! Apparently I can't type when I'm feeling feisty.

Beth: I know the feeling! And precisely put. I could call her a monster if it would be less gender sensitive!

Bethany, your frustration is so understandable because really, reality and facts have some how lost their value in this campaign!

“I do not agree with that,” she said. “It is regrettable that any of our supporters on both sides, because we’ve both had that experience, say things that kind of veer off into the personal.

“We ought to keep this on the issues,” Mrs. Clinton said. “There are differences between us. There are differences between our approaches on health care, on energy, on our experience, on our results that we’ve produced for people. That’s what this campaign should be about.”

well i guess thats all hillary is going to say about that. its so ridiculous what comes out of the mouths of the people in this campaign. i mean does she hear herself when she speaks? seriously, but i guess thats to be expected from her.

its like she is just brushing off to the side like it was a 5 year old saying something embarassing.

So no firing, no denouncing, and no rejecting? As I thought, then.

“We ought to keep this on the issues,” Mrs. Clinton said"

I'm nauseous.

Denounce and reject, Hillary! The debate cannot move forward until you denounce and reject.

She does realize that it is her people that are keeping the focus OFF the issues, right?

Can she win a general election after her camp supports statements like these???

(and by not firing, she is supporting).

Beautiful use of the smiley with a cigar, Bethany!

Beautiful use of the smiley with a cigar, Bethany!

HOW IGNORANT!!!!!

You all know where this is coming from, right?

A new poll/article after the OH/TX primaries showed whites supporting Clinton 2-1 (especially OH), the article said that this may be a racist response by lower educated, low income whites who don't like the massive black support for Obama and they are sort of voting for Hillary b/c black people vote for Obama.

...I dunno, it doesn't make that much sense to me either.

Either way, the article bases this on the Wisconsin vote in which whites supported Obama, saying that at that time the black vote was not so out in the open

....again, makes little sense to me, but whatever, people have to publish.

SO, my thoughts are the Hillary Clinton campaign is pouncing on this theory, thinking if they can get the low education/income people in PA to vote against the black vote - she will win, and the best way is to put this out in the open, have people talk about it (hoping many will say, "yup, only b/c he's black", then she may denounce/reject (whatever) and all is good.

I haven't been around a lot of elections in my life, but her campaign has got to be one of the most dirty, manipulative, and desperate. If she wins the nomination, I really may consider voting for McCain, because I don't vote entirely by party, and INTEGRITY is important in a nation and its leader, and Hillary has NONE.

Jillness, black people only make up about 12-13% of the US population.

(which proves your point even more lol)

"I haven't been around a lot of elections in my life, but her campaign has got to be one of the most dirty, manipulative, and desperate. If she wins the nomination, I really may consider voting for McCain, because I don't vote entirely by party, and INTEGRITY is important in a nation and its leader, and Hillary has NONE."

This is exactly my thoughts as well. In my opinion Clinton will be for the Democrats (and women for that matter) as George W. Bush is/was for the Republicans. And the Presidency have such importance that I will not vote for her merely because she is Democrat. Not something I thought I would say a year ago, but we all live and learn. She, with all her experience, is to me a far greater gamble than "in-experienced" Obama.

Well said, tresjolie. In addition, she will be the far more polarizing of the two, precisely because she is willing to stand by and allow her representatives say sh!t like this to rile people up. And polarization will get nothing done.

Oh, and what Ferraro said was disgustingly out of line.

Speaking on the Fox News Channel, she insists her comment was not racist, and is “absolutely offended” by the angry response she has received. Blames Obama campaign and David Axelrod.
Denies being a Clinton campaign surrogate, and advises Obama “not to antagonize people like me,” because if he wins nomination he will want her to raise money on his behalf.

so now i guess its his fault that she said something totally absurd? i hate it when politicians say that they were taken out of context, they know exactly what they are saying as the words come out their mouth. now that there is a s**t storm over the comments she wants to back away from them.

I'm disgusted.

geraldine who? i am so tired of irrelevant peoples statements being put out there as if they are important..who really cares what she said...she had her time, didnt work out..