Well, it seems the electoral math is fairly close on both sides:

Obama only wins by 22 electoral votes
Hillary only by 14 electoral votes

They don't really go into what the margin of error is and it doesn't seem like they took Nader into account.

All in all, I still feel we've got the edge in November.

Oh, and in regards to SurveyUSA, they tend to use Automated systems in their polling, so you have no idea who is actually voting in their polls. This may sound trivial to some people, but when you're only polling 600 people in a state and you start taking votes of a few kids here or votes of people who aren't even registered to vote it could sway the poll in either direction.

"All in all, I still feel we've got the edge in November."

Who is we?

Oh, and I think the VP situation is going to play a pretty big role this year and wi.l definitely have an impact on the results.

We are the Conservatives. The Conservatives would be backing the Republicans and thus be backing McCain.

Also, in what areas are these polls done? Primarily Democratic areas?

Not that I don't think that the Dems don't have a chance at winning, they most certainly do. I just don't think this poll is particularly empirical.

On another note, I think polls like this can be dangerous to the Democrats. I think it can give potential voters a false sense of ease, that they don't have to get out and vote because the win is already in the bag.

I take this poll with a grain of salt because just yesterday I read a poll that said McCain won in both instances... I hate polls.

Excellent point about the false sense of security Cine.. I think this happens to a lot of the young voters and then they don't show up on election day.

"I think this happens to a lot of the young voters and then they don't show up on election day." - I was living in San Francisco during the last election, while I was in school, and I remember that a group of my friends, who were liberals for the most part (in San Francisco? Shocking!) had a big election day party to watch the election results.

What is funny about it is that most of the people who were at the party were excited about the election, but did not actually vote.

3M, that is hilarious.

Like a lot of others, I don't really trust these polls. Unless someone is polling WAY ahead (like 20 points or more), the race will depend so much on voter turnout! Also, so many polls get so many different results because you can poll different groups of people: some poll eligible voters; some poll registered voters; still others poll likely voters. You will probably get completely different answers with these three polls.

3M, Exactly! Thats why I get so annoyed about hearing how young people are mad as hell and they aren't going to take it anymore!

Umm, didn't they say that in 2004? And yet, still, they did not show...

cabaker, I will be shocked if Hilary is the nominee if they come out and vote. I think there is more of a chance of that happening if Obama is the canidate, but then I think more adults will stay home then usual.

Cine, you're probably right. Either way I def. think this will be a close race unless someone does something really, really stupid between now and Nov 4th.

yup! it is going to be exciting!

can;t wait for this to be over with, am over it already

They also tend to poll people who have already voted before. So the youth vote is under represented, if they are voting for the first time.

I think this map shows that some democrats just will not vote for Hillary. She acts like Ohio and Texas were so important, while these maps show that they stay the same no matter which democrat is running.

Also, it shows that if Obama runs, he wins other big swing states: Iowa, Washington, Colorado, North Dakota, Virgina, Nevada, etc.

And to think that the Clinton Campaign has already called those vital states "insignificant".

I would say the map on the right is Obama v. Mccain. Now I get to check my answer!

Cine_Lover, maybe I just don't have a sense of humor. . .but I don't find what 3M said particularly *hilarious.* In fact, I think it's dismaying. It's horrible that even when someone plans a whole party around watching returns, they can't be bothered to take 20 minutes out of their day to exercise their must fundamental right as Americans.

What's really exciting about this election is that it has the potential to bring a whole new generation into the voting booth. My hope is that once they do it a first time, it is much more likely that they will continue.

On a sidenote: Kerry took San Francisco (overwhelmingly!) and California anyway