Dear E. Jean,
Did I just totally mess up?
Last night after a really great dinner and a movie with a guy (our second date), I invited him up for coffee to my apartment. He’s smart, a witty conversationalist, volunteers on a political campaign, and is attractive and slightly reserved. We’re both lawyers. As we arrived at my door, I was going through my bag searching for my keys, and, not thinking, I said nonchalantly to him: “I wonder where this is going?”
He froze.
It was the weirdest thing I ever saw. So I laughed and said:
“Don’t be nervous!”
Of course that was the WORST thing I could say, and of course I kept laughing like an idiot. I finally found my keys, and after turning the lock, I opened the door and, trying to lighten the mood, I said (I know, I know — stupid!) “Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.”
Needless to say, he stayed just long enough to take two sips of coffee and practically ran out the door. Was my momentary lapse that bad? I apologized twice — once last night, and once today in an e-mail. I received a polite but cold response. Did I lose him? Please tell me I didn’t. — Should Have Kept My Mouth Shut
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Miss Mouth,
Alas, my darling. He’s gone. The “Where is this going?” question is one of the best ways to lose a guy, along with the “Where do we stand?” . . . and the real scrotum-tightner: “So where do we stand as a couple?”
Chalk it up to experience. As to the other top ways to lose a guy, read on:
- Wrap your whole life around him.
- When driving home from a party refer to every single woman he spoke to as, “a famous slut.”
- Make him take the quizzes in Ladies’ Mags.
- If you went to a better college than he did, never let him forget it.
- Reassure him that all men, uh, have, uh, difficulties in the sack, but not to worry — you’ve discussed his problem with his friends, and THEY all think it’s hilarious.
- After your third date instruct your children to call him Daddy, even if they are all over 25.
- Every time he makes a joke, roll your eyes and say, “Very funny. Ha ha.”
- Fixate on the future. Focus, for example, on his taking you to Cabo San Lucas for Easter.
- If he does not take you to Cabo San Lucas for Easter, act real light and breezy and then suddenly collapse in a heap, burst into tears, and inform him he has “intimacy issues.”
- Speaking of which, always cry after sex.
- Better yet, cry during sex.
NOTE: One of these weeks we’ll list the best 12 ways a man can lose your interest.
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I think you "Abandon all hope..." comment sealed the deal.
1Well, if he can't laugh it off, then he really isn't that great, right?
2Not to sound harsh...but WHAT were you thinking saying those things??? It actually made me laugh! And I agree with graceunderfire...if he can't laugh it off, then he's just not worth it! Oh, and don't email him anymore, will only make you seem like you're chasing after him.
3I agree w/grace.
Sounds like a loser.
4BUT... saying that after just the 2nd date is a bit much... it would probably freak me out a little bit too.
5Yea, you lost him.
But I don't know for sure if you were joking too when you say "Where is this going."
Were you? If you are, and he can't take a joke, then good riddance. If you're serious, yeah, second date is kind of too early to ask. But if his reaction is THAT strongly, it means that he's just not ready to commit to anything period, and if the commitment thing is what you're looking for, you're better off to keep on looking.
Oh yeah, just stop with e-mailing and calling him, let him go.
Maybe months later, when you can laugh it off, ask for real what he thought when you said those words -- just to confirm what most of us already know...
Good luck
6lost him, lol...I'm sorry, but that's a funny story.
I cant believe at how people *scare* so easily...it was just a comment! why would anyone freak out over THAT? I wouldn't...and I've even said it to people (thinking outloud and realizing I actually said it)....and they just laughed it off. ay,...nimodo.
look into dating less anal, uptight shmucks.
7haha! i hadn't read the list...that's HILARIOUS!
813. Put your toothbrush in his bathroom after the third date.
14. Ask him how he feels about diamonds in an engagement ring. Or does he prefer rubies?
9How To Lose A Guy in one night...haha...
10The 'I wonder where this is going' comment is the kiss of death, especially on a second date. Then you continually laughed after saying that? I'd have run off too.
11I hate all the dating rules that everyone "supposes" to know and follow... if things didn't work out the way you wanted, then move on...dont stress about it and over analyze it. learn from your "mistakes" if you think those were mistakes... Just have fun...
12Sorry Miss Mouth - I agree w/Jean E. and all the above posters - abandon all hope at this point and just write him off now - and maybe not to give you false hope but maybe after you've gone a few months sans all communication he will call you sua sponte to see how your doing since 'it's been awhile'.
So, stop calling and emailing now. Oh and no texting either!!!! Chalk it up to lesson learned - I'm sure we all have some story about our dating mishaps, so this one will just be yours. I think I've said this before but I'll reidurate - DATING SUCKS!!!! But, it's one of the only things that we do knowing that it can change the rest of our lives for the better - so, that's why we do it. So, good luck and go out with your girl friends ASAP for a glass of wine and a good laugh about this - trust me nothing takes the sting out like wine and girlfriends!
P.S. Thanks Jean E and fluffyhelen for the list!! It's great!!! I would only add:
1315. Call, text, email, IM at least 7-8 times an hour every hour - just to tell him something you forgot to tell him five minutes ago that can't wait for the call five minutes from now
So funny and sad at the same time. I agree with the others if he's going to scramso quickly over that little mess up then he isn't worth it. I can relate to wanting to know where you stand. i'm the kind of girl who ikes to be up front and I think if there's no possibility of a relationship becoming anything then why not know up front. Maybe you shouldn't have asked so quickly bu toh well, just leave him be and find a new guy... with a sense of humor
1415. Tell him that his brother/dad/uncle/cousin/ETC is GREAT/better than him IN BED
1516. Tell him that his brother/dad/uncle/cousin/etc has bigger...y'know what
17. Look at him and say: wouldn't it be great to hear the pitter patter of little [insert guy's name] feet around us?
1618. Burp/fart/pick your nose in front of him and say: that felt good!
Awww! This guy sucks - he seems to have no understanding of saying stupid things while nervous!
I can relate to the poster - I say the most incredible things and create awkward moments at the worst times. Even when you're shouting to yourself "don't mention X... DON'T MENTION X!" and oops! you've just managed to mention X.
Let it go and hope you can meet someone with a similar sense of humor in the future!
17eh, he's probably gone but it doesn't sound like a major loss. when i first read this, i though the 'wonder where this is going' comment was a sex reference (as in, i wonder if you're about to get lucky *wink, wink*), not a i-want-a-commitment/engagement ring-this-very-second reference. as for the other comment, that was completely hilarious. this guy sounds like a schmuck.
don't feel bad. i made a similar foot-in-mouth, cheeky comment in regards to our lack of chemistry one time (not that it was a lot cause comment but a 'something i want to give another shot just to make sure' kinda comment) and...well...let's just say we didn't get that second shot. it bothered me at first but then i realized it was no big loss b/c if he was so uptight that he couldn't appreciate my cheekiness, i didn't want him anyway.
18LMAO!!!! And stop apologizing b/c you have nothing to apologize for. He seems too uptight for you. I'm guessing things slip out of your mouth a lot when you’re nervous, and he seems way too tense to handle that. Poor guy, he needs to find a sense of humor.
19Sheesh! He has no sense of humor. I would hope you could find a guy who was just as awkward as you and you two could laugh about it. After my first kiss with my current boyfriend I accidently made fun of our his kissing but... he had a good sense of humor and stuck it out for over 2.5 years now.
20As always, E. Jean nails it!
21Girl, you screwed up. I agree he's gone. (Truthfully, if I was in his situation, I would be gone, too).
Well, chalk this up to a learning experience. Next time, keep your social guard up. Keep your cards close. Play your cards better.
22I too have ''foot-in-mouth-syndrome" when I get nervous sometimes...but the others are right, he sounds waaay too uptight if he's going to bolt after a little slip-up like that.
23I would have thought the "I wonder where this is going..." comment would mean you planned on sexing him up the entire night. I wouldn't have thought that had anything to do with the future. The fact that you were nervous and joking around is fine, he just didn't take it in a funny way. It sort of says he is uptight.
24jenintx and lemassabielle - I thought the same thing about the "I wonder where this is going" comment - I thought she was talking about perhaps getting some action!
25I also thought you meant he might get lucky that night, and not about your future as a couple or whatever. But if a man gets scared that easily then he isn't worth much worry in my book.
26For some reason this whole post turns me off. I mean, why'd you apologize? And twice. You're putting a lot of thought into someone you arent even with.
27LOL jenintx, I thought the exact same thing. That's why this post really made me laugh.
But yeah, if you were asking him where the relationship was going on the second date, then you most likely lost him.
28lol. he's a dirk (my word for loser).
i thought you meant you wanted to freak his body . . .in a joking manner. either way, it sounded like you were making a super corney joke.
i thought you said he was witty?!
he's like a hamburger with a soggy bun; WTF!
and why the hell are you appologizing?!
he's a blazin' idiot. he coulda got some nook-nook, and left you hangin' like all the other men out there in the dating world do, but instead he bailed out. it's not like you made a Herpes Joke!
i'm kinda p*ssed, because if he had coffee, that means he dirtied up a good coffee mug!
29Asia you make me laugh every time i read your comments!
30yeah, this guy has no sense of humor. it was slightly odd, but if that's all it takes to freak him out, then what a wuss.
Hey i think what you said was funny. It shows you have a personality. Dont stress yourself about that guy....he's obviously dull and boring.
I think you should keep looking for someone you can banter with and is able to reply/handle your wittiness. g luck!
31I would've freaked as well. Hilarious commentary as usual from E. Jean...
32glad to know i wasn't the only one who thought it was a corny "heyyyy, you might get lucky tonight (wink wink)" joke!
but if it WAS a "where are we going?" relationship question, then yeah, i totally agree with E.Jean. in either case, this guy is a douche and not worth your time. find someone better!
33"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here."
Where do you live? A Renaissance festival?
Anyway, call the guy a loser all your want, the girl acted weird, it was a second date, and he felt uncomfortable. I wonder why random comments and bizarre/continuous laughter made him feel that way. Hmmmm.
If he were an *sshole and stuck around after that just to get laid, then he'd be a loser.
I hate the opinion that if a guy isn't interested in a girl and all her quirks, he's a loser. They're just not right for each other!
34I hate the opinion that if a guy isn't interested in a girl and all her quirks, he's a loser. They're just not right for each other!
Well said, popgoestheworld! Sooo many of my friends think this way. They get really angry when it doesn't work out after a date or two. Sometimes it just doesn't click; that's the dating game. Doesn't mean he's an ass. If he tries to sleep with you and doesn't like you, that's another story, yes. But for my friends, the guys don't try that either and they are somehow enraged he didn't call them.
I say get over it and just enjoy dating!
35I say you have a sense of humor and you now have the wonderfully early realization that he doesn't, lucky you that you didn't have to wait any longer to figure that out...I wouldn't want him anyway if I were you...lol. Find someone who can laugh with you.
36ohh and I agree that I thought your comment was a: you might get lucky tonight comment, not one about your relationship future...
37HE IS SOOOO GONE! I mean...that was just weird...and that "abandon all hope"....creepy...what are you giving him ...herpes???
I agree with popgoestheworld....she was just funky...too much so.
I guess not even lawyers can escape the stupid talk syndrome..lol.
Better luck next time.
38I wouldn't worry about it if he cant laugh along with you then you don't need him im sure you can frind better
39Oh what in the world made you say those things!
It is very funny to me, a girl. But
I can definitely see where a guy would be completely freaked out.
Stop trying to talk to him - let him contact you. If he can't get over it and give you a call/text/email back... let him go. Sorry if you feel you lost a good guy, but don't worry there are lots of other guys that may laugh at what you said!
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